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Old 26 July 2009, 07:24 PM
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Default Classic Headlights **PROJECTOR RETROFIT**

I know I'm not the first and I'm sure if people have got the patience to strip and modify their lights to make them 300 times better I very much doubt I'll be the last!!!! After seeing 'Shumacher's' lights and 'Darms' how to guide, I thought I'd give it a whirl, how hard could it be?

Here's some pics of my finished little project. I wanted to try and keep as much of the OE look as I possibly could as I really like the Crystal headlights as they were and I was a bit reluctant to modify them but I struggled to see on dark wet nights.........
I will get some night output shots up as soon as I can which are mega compared to the stock halogen units, but heres a teaser of some I took in the rain.

I also intend to do a step by step 'How-To' if there is enough interest
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A couple when I was setting them up.
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Hope you liked em....

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Old 26 July 2009, 07:40 PM
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Very nice. Let me tell you, I'm sure there will be enough interest for a step by step guid. I know its been done before, but is always good to see/hear how other people do them.
I already want to know what projectors you used.
Old 26 July 2009, 08:07 PM
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Thanks mate, I got the projectors from 'The retrofit Source' in the US. But as others have done I did a lot of research into how xenons work and what was best for me. Looking on sites like HID planet etc.
There's a lot to learn, its like being back at school.

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Old 26 July 2009, 09:40 PM
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Well done mate Really nice to see my how to guide being used.

You'll never go back to std headlights Enjoy!
Old 26 July 2009, 09:48 PM
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I'd like to see your "how to".

How do these projectors do dip/main beam?
Old 26 July 2009, 10:28 PM
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They are Bi-Xenons with a shield that lowers on a simple solenoid to let the whole light shine out, thus removing the cut-off (dipped beam)

Looks like I better get to work on the 'How-To' guide.

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Old 27 July 2009, 12:18 PM
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Yep. Could be my next mod
Old 27 July 2009, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tanyatriangles
Yep. Could be my next mod
To replace the morettes?
Old 27 July 2009, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by joey_turbo
To replace the morettes?
yep, would sell them on.........
Old 27 July 2009, 03:40 PM
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I can add that they look superb even up close, you've done a superb job on the up-grade.

As a triple HID fool I'd recommend them, awesome.

dunx

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Old 27 July 2009, 04:08 PM
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Cheers matey, if a jobs worth doing, its worth doing with a good dollop of OCD

I'm still going to get a set of them Hella beauties you have gracing the front of yours. When the missus aint looking.
Old 27 July 2009, 07:08 PM
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so only slightly like mine then mate..... hellas rule

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Old 27 July 2009, 07:49 PM
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I’ve not gone for hid’s before as they never look ‘factory’
You’ve got yours looking just that though.
It on my list of ‘to-dos’ now so hurry up and get that guide up!!
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blu-scoob......Thanks mate, I really like the crystal headlight and I was both reluctant and nervous about chopping them up.

Darms......Thats a shameless display of 1 up manship!!!
Night shots coming later tonight if I can get the camera working.

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Old 28 July 2009, 10:50 PM
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Some night shots as promised
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Good riddance to the Halogens

Way better shots with a way better camera
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Old 28 July 2009, 10:58 PM
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there looking good mate, looks like you can see about 20 times further than the standard lights!!!
and them hellas look mean darms.
Old 29 July 2009, 12:36 AM
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Nice ! lights as quick as your car is a big add-on safety wise....

IMHO

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Look excellent. I wonder how well they'd fair in an MOT though?
Old 01 August 2009, 11:40 PM
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The beam pattern in the last two pics is spot on, and thats all the MOT testers care about.
Old 02 August 2009, 08:38 AM
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look amazing on my list of mods 2 do now just need to get a face lift front end ( what parts are needed for the conversion with the single angel eye and the crystal clear lights

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Originally Posted by joey_turbo
The beam pattern in the last two pics is spot on, and thats all the MOT testers care about.
I agree: judging by the number of cars on the road with badly mis-aligned lights, they certainly don't test alignment.
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BTW that is a cracking PDF you've made
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Thanks for your comments Olliecampbell, took a bit of doing, but worth it if it'll help other members to have a go.

There's no reason why it wouldn't pass an MOT as projectors are fitted as standard to most top end cars..Audi's, BMW's, Merc's etc. They don't have as sharp cut-off line as mine so mine should be even more likely to pass than a badly adjusted Audi.

Those are just my thoughts though.

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Dannyboygti - The angel eyes will just wire into the side lights loom I think.
Then you'll just have to get some projectors.
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what lights would i need to use then or just get a set with the angle eyes and moddify it thanks chap
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Any set will do really. The Angel Eye will just sit over the projector. You can buy an aftermarket shroud that fits over the projector like mine that has a recess that will accommodate the Angel Eye as well.
Hope that helps.
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Yep, cracking PDF.
Quite a few cars I can think of have projectors, but not HID's (Ford Puma, Nissan 200sx, Mk2 Fiat Punto). Is there any reason why those projectors can't be used? Must be cheap for a set of Mk2 Punto headlights.
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Thanks for the nice comments

Im not entirely sure but I've heard somewhere that the reflector bowl in a projector are either designed to take a halogen bulb or HID bulb.
So taking a Punto projector and using a HID bulb may not work as good as a specifically designed bowl.

Then again I might be talking out of my $&%$

Porsche, Range Rover and Mercs use HID. its harder than you think to get a set from a scrapyard too because they wont split the headlight for just the projector. So you have to find a car thats had both headlights glass broken and yet not damaged the projector in any way. Not easy!!
I found a merc scrapyard thats had a headlight unit that had a cracked glass and he wanted £200..... ....mental.
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I sourced my projectors from the UK and they were FREE

If anyone wants any projectors drop me a line and I'll see what I can do. I opted for some Jaguar XJ Bi-Xenon when I done my retrofit back in 2008.

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As for the Angel Eyes - I purchased them direct from the manufacturer in China.

For those interested my original "how to guide" it can be found here Darms Projects (password = scoobynet)

However its not as flash as Stevo210's guide though

Stevo210 welcome to the Exclusive UK Scooby Projector Retrofit Club

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jeff,

Cant post on the moved thread, so...

Re: your question about RHD projectors ...most OEM (well the 3 i looked at) projector units are easily reversable from LHD to RHD (the angled cut off is controlled simply by a shaped piece of metal that sits in front the bulb & behind the lens) this can then be flipped ...I guess to save manufacturer's money when it comes to LHD & RHD markets


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