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Old 04 December 2012, 07:49 PM
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Have these mods on my blob sti just need some ideas what to do next to make it any better on power it's running

MD321T
650cc injectors
Aztec performance FMIC
K&N typhoon cold air induction
Performance headers
Perrin short shift and bushes
3" fully decat japspeed exhaust
Grooved discs
Kavalar pads
HEL braided lines
Tein springs
Exedy organic clutch

Not sure what else to do to it atm
Any ideas??

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What power is it running atm?
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406bhp 385lbs just putting fmic then looking at 450/420 ish hopefully
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Anti roll bars, Droplinks and Coilovers to make use of the power
Old 04 December 2012, 08:48 PM
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nice looking car...
add a fpr/billet rails and get the turbo billeted :-)
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How much am I looking to get it billeted?
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as I remember (as I'm on about having it done) with wheel changed and compressor housing just shy of £600 including vat.
Old 04 December 2012, 09:33 PM
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Big £££££'s does it really make a big difference?
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so I've heard.... brings spool in earlier giving more torque and power
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Originally Posted by Rbon91
How much am I looking to get it billeted?
Speak to the Turbo Dynamics about the upgrading to billet or Mark@Lateral Performance,price for upgrade has been £295 plus VAT(which is in total £354)

https://www.scoobynet.com/trader-ann...et-turbos.html

Its worth to upgrade and speak to your mapper what he thinks about this option,but from most people who done it,is it worth the extra spending on that


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that's only the wheel though jura...
I spoke to mark and he said to get full benefit from it u need the housing changed too.....
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Thanks yes
Looking for some coilovers
Drop links
3port boost solenoid
Old 04 December 2012, 10:07 PM
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Im at work so I cant see the image, but looking at your list and what your planing on doing, I would say a Turbo upgrade (or core upgrade) or take the plunge on going twin scroll

What headers have you fitted?

Either way as said above, I would be looking at suspension mods. Power is nothing without handling and brakes. Trust me I speak of experience of at least once LOL.

Also to add, I would be tempted to run with 20% meth to help ealry spool and torque.

AND if you are not already I would suggest you use Andrew Carr for the mapping with the Speed Density, then you can have a few maps on the standard ECU (one for meth), assuming your on standard ECU? Also Im not sure what year the map sensors upgraded on the Blobeye, but I think the MY05+ had the better allowing mappers to push more "visible and controlable" boost (stand to be corrected)

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Not running meth atm
Headers are from Williams Motorsport in Chester.
I have grooved discs and kavalar pads on atm which are good... Was thinking maybe go for sc46 billet turbo is that better than MD321T I'm running atm?
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Originally Posted by Rbon91
Not running meth atm
Headers are from Williams Motorsport in Chester.
I have grooved discs and kavalar pads on atm which are good... Was thinking maybe go for sc46 billet turbo is that better than MD321T I'm running atm?
I cant comment on the headers although I know of good things from Williams Motorsport if the same compnay Im thinking of

As for the turbo comparison, I cant comment on my own experiences but I have been involved in many threads ref this 450bhp subject, and this one most recently I found interesting if that helps? https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...bhp-turbo.html

Be carefull with your choice, and doing what your doing asking for advice is the best bet, there is nothing worse than a laggy 2.0 motor.

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Ok mate thanks... Atm not to laggy at all..
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Originally Posted by craigyp
that's only the wheel though jura...
I spoke to mark and he said to get full benefit from it u need the housing changed too.....
Aha this I don't know

You are running 58mm or 76mm intake on yours T?

But I'm pretty sure Steve@Stevesbluewrx he running just billet wheel on his T without the problem and spool/top end has been improved



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Running standard 58mm intake mate
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is that a newage uk sti or jdm?
Old 05 December 2012, 10:23 AM
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Newage 2005 blob type uk
Old 05 December 2012, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Rbon91
Ok mate thanks... Atm not to laggy at all..
It will be laggy at 400 but as you have nor driven anything to compare it with then you won't notice it, but at 450 it will be a dog on a 2ltr with a single scroll turbo, don't go chasing figures as you will end up slower rather than quicker.
Though I would love to be your insurance co, they must love taking money off you

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Originally Posted by Rbon91
406bhp 385lbs just putting fmic then looking at 450/420 ish hopefully
Mate thats a good lbs of torque you got there for a uk newage. You are really pushing your engine if you go 450 but great if you get it without experiencing further problems.
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There not to bad really for what Ive done to car haa
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
Be carefull with your choice, and doing what your doing asking for advice is the best bet, there is nothing worse than a laggy 2.0 motor
Originally Posted by TonyBurns
It will be laggy at 400 but as you have nor driven anything to compare it with then you won't notice it, but at 450 it will be a dog on a 2ltr with a single scroll turbo

Tony is far more knowledgable than myself, but from my experience and Tony's knowledge / experience I would myself be relucatant (now) aiming for anything over 400 on a 2.0 engine without going twin scroll. Ask around in your local club(s) for someone running similat power on twin scroll and ask for a ride out, you'll soon be be re-thinking your route to take.

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Yehh first step next year will prob be get turbo billeted see how that is..
Twin scroll conversion is big ££££££'s
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I have a 05 STI 2ltr running 370bhp 461nm torque these figures are at the wheels so its around the 450 mark at the crank give or take a few bhp
I'm running a owen development turbo 650 injectors greedy frontmount and syvecs ecu the turbo isnt twin scroll
Since the syvecs as been fitted the car now spools at 3500rpm and olds its power well over 7000rpm there are no flat spots and very little lag
Its a good call about the suspension i run EXE-TC coil overs with perrin rear arb drop links stout mounts and adjustable rear arms with out the suspension and brake upgrades you wont be able to use the power to the full
All work as been completed by Tracktive Solutions car set up and mapping by Richard Bulmer and Mat i also run one of there throttle bodies which also improves throttle response
Speak to Richard at Tractive about the Syvecs the ECU make a huge difference over the standard ECU
at 5000rpm my car make 50bhp more on the syvecs than it did on the Ecu-tek map
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461 torques.... What turbo you running for that??
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Originally Posted by Rbon91
461 torques.... What turbo you running for that??
thats was measured in NM not lbsft
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Originally Posted by trainer
The Syvecs the ECU make a huge difference over the standard ECU
at 5000rpm my car make 50bhp more on the syvecs than it did on the Ecu-tek map
So much? Is this becuase the standard ECU is now outdated for what is achievable, or that its simply not mappable to what after market ECU's are capable?

Without wanting to drift off subject too much, I was talking to Andrew Carr around July time when he mapped my old 2004 STI with Speed Density, and although we achieved 400bhp give or take, I was told there was a little more to come by means of using a later version of the blobeye/hawkeye map sensor.
I was pretty much pleased with what was acheived anyway, and considering what turbo (AF20G) the power was made on, there would only be around 10-15bhp left by the turbo by pushing everything to the limit, and by that I mean, boost, ECU switch, bolt ons, and mapper still using the same turbo. So that for me said that for the set up I was running (early spool) and the blower being almost at its limit, going aftermarket ECU was pretty much pointless without it being part of a all host of upgrades.
Which brings me back to your reply, can you really gain 50bhp by using syvecs rather than the standard ECU supported with by a good mapper? Maybe in your case, but I dont think all cars will see significant benifits especially if the mapper has already exhausted all his skills on the standard ecu before hand?

Just my version of course, but then Im biased as Ive always used AC for my mapping

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Originally Posted by Rbon91
Yehh first step next year will prob be get turbo billeted see how that is..
Twin scroll conversion is big ££££££'s
All you need is downpipe, OEM t/s headers & uppipe, Sump and oil pick up pipe and the turbo of choice and if your changing the turbo anyway you'll get money back for what you take off, Might me be as expensive as you think.

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