ByByR1

Been told by subaru garage that my cats have gone on my tribeca, at a cost of £4500 to replace. Can anyone help me PLEASE
Its done 82k and not 3 years old yet so they say warrenty is invalid cos of mileage

juggers

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LOL that's bull sh2T try a subaru breakers if not I can ask about for you in Japan

or better yet just go for a full decat and remap.

Empty

Are you sure it wasn't £450? £4500 is just insane

ByByR1

Thanks Guys, yes it was defo £4500 cos each cat was just short of £1700 each plus the labour to fit, well gutted..
I would be tempted at a decat system with a remap but not sure if they do one or where to source one from, any ideas?
Thanks again

bigsinky

i checked online in about 2 minutes and a generic non subaru cat for a tribeca 3.0 petrol is $160

http://www.andysautosport.com/subaru...rters/bassani/

53

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fpmsl £4500 !

ByByR1

Thanks, I looked yesterday, but had no luck. still not to sure though about getting them from America, but cheers. It must be worth a chance though to save that amount of money

53

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If you went to a company like Hayward and Scott or Simpsons, they would make you a complete system for a smidge of what subaru are asking !

ByByR1

Haven't a clue what fpmsl means

g7prs

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f@cking pi$$ing myself laughing ( at the price he means )

ByByR1

Nice one cheers,

I know I'm not laughing. I have just bought it last month from Keighly Trade centre who are now not wanting to help in any way, all I could say is stay well clear of their or put people off if you know anyone who is wanting to buy a car from them.

Does anyone know if I can do anything about it, ie go to trading standards?

ByByR1

I got 33.3mpg on my way home from scotland aswell, which the subaru dealer couldn't believe. Not to sure if it is the cats, or maybe just the sensors with carbon build up on?. They want another £400 to investigate further. Just don't know which way to go.

juggers

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The one from the states should be bob on. They will be exact copys at a fraction of the price.

rob84

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what was the code the ecu threw up mate ??

Both cats dont fail just like that, one yes but not both ? was the code along the lines of p0420 cataylst below threshold

ByByR1

It may be the way forward, cheers

ByByR1

I don't know the code it threw up as the wife took it in whilst I was at work, it don't say anything on my bill either. £81 to check it with the reader. day light robbery if you ask me.

Midlife......

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Did I see keighley trade centre mentioned in this thread ??

Shaun

ByByR1

Yes mate, no help what so ever. It cost's us over £50 for the round trip and the £81 to put it on the dealers m/c. not a thing to help out. I could go on and on about them but it ****** me off.

bigsinky

erm.... $160 is about £100. you need 2 cats. that £200 + shipping plus import taxes. it's not even negotiable. £500 fitted say against £4500? I know what i would be doing.

bigsinky

£81 for about 30 seconds work. nice money if you can get it. dealers are such robbin bastids

Midlife......

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Strangely enough my dealer has never charged me to hook up their select monitor........all they ask is for it to be dropped in when they have a quiet patch during the day

Since getting the SECS I've not had to call on them for a while but I doubt it's changed, unless you want it on a day they are PDI'ing cars for the new registration.

Shaun

Shaun

rob84

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Thats because we look after our customers

ByByR1

Shaun, My lights have come back on again, but the car passed an mot on friday with the emissions not been a problem. Is there a way I can turn it off without another £80 to the dealer.
Cheers

TonyBurns

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I.M. bunch of rip off merchants well no wonder they are not selling cars
try one of the import places, find the cat is about a 10th of the price

Tony

Midlife......

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International Motors (IM) do not employ the staff at Subaru Dealers......Dealership employees just have to deal with the situation.. Just look at the Pro R debacle

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...351-pro-r.html

Where are you, as Tony says an independant may be able to help

Shaun

TonyBurns

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I.M. provide all the parts for subaru UK though (if/when they order them )as the official importer, hence they keep putting up the prices

Tony

Midlife......

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Tony

I have to agree on that point.......The cost of spares from IM (for example the OEM brake discs and pads are laughable) simply beggars belief at times !!

This does not mean to say that you can tar individual employees of Subaru Dealers with the same brush.

Shaun

Ayde

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Get yourself along to Argos and get a RAC code reader/resetter, I got one a while back - think it was on offer for £30 at the time or maybe £40 - can't remember. Works fine, used on Subaru, Hyundai and Audi so far with no problems. You get a book of codes and faults they relate to plus a CD of them too all in a carry case. That way you can read the code/codes - find out what's throwing the light up then get the problem sorted and reset the light and save yourself a lot of money on the dealer doing it for you

Ayde.

MartynJ

Something worth noting guys, if you do replace the cat with an aftermarket one, make sure it is type approved. New rules brought out if I remember correctly 2 years ago are informing MOT testers to be on the look out for non type approved cats on cars registered after 1st January 2001. They are to inform the ministry who will then deal with people by post.

http://www.bmcatalysts.co.uk/type_ap...egulations.php

Martyn

ALi-B

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Put it this way, Cats don't just 'fail' there is always a cause, and this must be found first.

Unless you whack them with a big speed hump. (Doubtful on a Tribeca unless its been offroaded).

OR most likely the car has been operated for a significant amount of time with an engine fault. This can be lumpy runny/lack of engine smoothness, lack of power, poor fuel consumption, check engine light, or just a strong smell from the exhaust (due to the cat being overloaded). A runing fault, even a minor one can over time overheat and melt a cat and render it ineffective.

These running faults MUST be diagnoised and fixed before attempting to replace the cats. Otherwise teh new ones WILL meet the same fate.

These cars use two sensor to ensure the is cat is present and operating correctly. They are also sometimes used to calibrate each sensor as well a provide adaption to the engine's fuel mixture. Now, some cars, like VWs are clever, their systems are actually quite good at working out if the sensor is at fault or teh cat is and the fueling readapts automatically once rectified

But on the other hand some systems are stupid; like the Denso system in a Volvo v70....it throws up cat errors when a sensor is dodgy and refuses to readapt teh fueling once the rogue sensor has been found and replaced. This leads to teh car running bad mixtures, still throwing up ramdom codes and eventually destroys the cat from it overheating.

By the way, I'm not assuming a sensor fault, its just one of the many things that needs to be checked....other common issues include vacuum leaks, valve timing issues and a faulty injector(s) amongst other things.