HELP ecutec remap or open source
26 July 2011, 08:41 PM
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HELP ecutec remap or open source
HI GUYS I WANT A REMAP DOING TO MY HAWKEYE STI. I HAVE HEARED ECUTEC REMAPS R GOOD AND THERE ABOUT £500 FITTED I HAVE ALSO HEARED ABOUT OPEN SOURCE REMAPS FROM DUNCAN DYNAMICS WHO AS A GOOD REPUTAION AND THEY GO FOR ABOUT £350
ALL I WANT IS WHATS BEST FOR MY BABY
IF ANYONE HAS HAD ANY OF THEM DONE CAN U TELL ME THE PROS AND CONS OF BOTH
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26 July 2011, 09:01 PM
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HI GUYS I WANT A REMAP DOING TO MY HAWKEYE STI. I HAVE HEARED ECUTEC REMAPS R GOOD AND THERE ABOUT £500 FITTED I HAVE ALSO HEARED ABOUT OPEN SOURCE REMAPS FROM DUNCAN DYNAMICS
WHO AS A GOOD REPUTAION AND THEY GO FOR ABOUT £350
ALL I WANT IS WHATS BEST FOR MY BABY
IF ANYONE HAS HAD ANY OF THEM DONE CAN U TELL ME THE PROS AND CONS OF BOTH
CHEERS
26 July 2011, 09:03 PM
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Ecutec is good but a good part of the cost is the Licence, Open source is also good as you do net require Licence,
On the Hawkeye WRX & Sti you can also go Ecutec Racerom. with this you will also require the licence. with the racerom you can have the additions of.
Launch Control
Flat shift
Blip of the throttle for when changing down gears
& you can also run maffless with racerom.
it all depends on how much power, and what you are wanting to do with your car,
If you are just wanting more power I would go open source, (Cheapest)
If you are wanting the very best from your std ECU then I would go Ecutec racerom.
Which ever you do, a lot of the reliability and good running from the map would come from a good mapper,
there are a lot of mappers out there, Duncan been one of them.
as far as been a great mapper, you need to look at Duncans car and the numbers from the engine, now you do require a strong engine, but you also have to be a great mapper.
Bez
PS turn the CAPS LOCK OFF
On the Hawkeye WRX & Sti you can also go Ecutec Racerom. with this you will also require the licence. with the racerom you can have the additions of.
Launch Control
Flat shift
Blip of the throttle for when changing down gears
& you can also run maffless with racerom.
it all depends on how much power, and what you are wanting to do with your car,
If you are just wanting more power I would go open source, (Cheapest)
If you are wanting the very best from your std ECU then I would go Ecutec racerom.
Which ever you do, a lot of the reliability and good running from the map would come from a good mapper,
there are a lot of mappers out there, Duncan been one of them.
as far as been a great mapper, you need to look at Duncans car and the numbers from the engine, now you do require a strong engine, but you also have to be a great mapper.
Bez
PS turn the CAPS LOCK OFF
26 July 2011, 09:20 PM
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Ecutec is good but a good part of the cost is the Licence, Open source is also good as you do net require Licence,
On the Hawkeye WRX & Sti you can also go Ecutec Racerom. with this you will also require the licence. with the racerom you can have the additions of.
Launch Control
Flat shift
Blip of the throttle for when changing down gears
& you can also run maffless with racerom.
it all depends on how much power, and what you are wanting to do with your car,
If you are just wanting more power I would go open source, (Cheapest)
If you are wanting the very best from your std ECU then I would go Ecutec racerom.
Which ever you do, a lot of the reliability and good running from the map would come from a good mapper,
there are a lot of mappers out there, Duncan been one of them.
as far as been a great mapper, you need to look at Duncans car and the numbers from the engine, now you do require a strong engine, but you also have to be a great mapper.
Bez
PS turn the CAPS LOCK OFF
On the Hawkeye WRX & Sti you can also go Ecutec Racerom. with this you will also require the licence. with the racerom you can have the additions of.
Launch Control
Flat shift
Blip of the throttle for when changing down gears
& you can also run maffless with racerom.
it all depends on how much power, and what you are wanting to do with your car,
If you are just wanting more power I would go open source, (Cheapest)
If you are wanting the very best from your std ECU then I would go Ecutec racerom.
Which ever you do, a lot of the reliability and good running from the map would come from a good mapper,
there are a lot of mappers out there, Duncan been one of them.
as far as been a great mapper, you need to look at Duncans car and the numbers from the engine, now you do require a strong engine, but you also have to be a great mapper.
Bez
PS turn the CAPS LOCK OFF
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26 July 2011, 09:41 PM
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I went to Alan Jeffreys and let MartinJ map mine.
Alan Jeffreys is in Plymouth, 258 miles from where I live, thats 516mile round trip,
Alan Built my engine, Martin Mapped it,
I think they are the best.
Don't know about scoobyworld.
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26 July 2011, 09:45 PM
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Not all ecutec mappers can do racerom.
I went to Alan Jeffreys and let MartinJ map mine.
Alan Jeffreys is in Plymouth, 258 miles from where I live, thats 516mile round trip,
Alan Built my engine, Martin Mapped it,
I think they are the best.
Don't know about scoobyworld.
Bez
I went to Alan Jeffreys and let MartinJ map mine.
Alan Jeffreys is in Plymouth, 258 miles from where I live, thats 516mile round trip,
Alan Built my engine, Martin Mapped it,
I think they are the best.
Don't know about scoobyworld.
Bez
26 July 2011, 09:47 PM
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Good info here https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...n-mapping.html
After reading a few it looks litithes the mapper and ecutec is good it's just open source is cheeper
26 July 2011, 09:53 PM
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Ecutec is good but a good part of the cost is the Licence, Open source is also good as you do net require Licence,
On the Hawkeye WRX & Sti you can also go Ecutec Racerom. with this you will also require the licence. with the racerom you can have the additions of.
Launch Control
Flat shift
Blip of the throttle for when changing down gears
& you can also run maffless with racerom.
it all depends on how much power, and what you are wanting to do with your car,
If you are just wanting more power I would go open source, (Cheapest)
If you are wanting the very best from your std ECU then I would go Ecutec racerom.
Which ever you do, a lot of the reliability and good running from the map would come from a good mapper,
there are a lot of mappers out there, Duncan been one of them.
as far as been a great mapper, you need to look at Duncans car and the numbers from the engine, now you do require a strong engine, but you also have to be a great mapper.
Bez
PS turn the CAPS LOCK OFF
On the Hawkeye WRX & Sti you can also go Ecutec Racerom. with this you will also require the licence. with the racerom you can have the additions of.
Launch Control
Flat shift
Blip of the throttle for when changing down gears
& you can also run maffless with racerom.
it all depends on how much power, and what you are wanting to do with your car,
If you are just wanting more power I would go open source, (Cheapest)
If you are wanting the very best from your std ECU then I would go Ecutec racerom.
Which ever you do, a lot of the reliability and good running from the map would come from a good mapper,
there are a lot of mappers out there, Duncan been one of them.
as far as been a great mapper, you need to look at Duncans car and the numbers from the engine, now you do require a strong engine, but you also have to be a great mapper.
Bez
PS turn the CAPS LOCK OFF
Same functions as Racerom have Open Source too(on 06)...
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26 July 2011, 10:03 PM
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I wouldn't get too excited regarding Racerom. I waited nearly 2 years for it and to be brutally honest I was a little dissapointed. I wanted to go mafless but my car wouldn't run smoothly at low revs so the maf had to be left in, however some people have managed to go fully mafless so maybe its just an issue with my car. The downshift blip is barely noticeable and there seems to be no set pattern to it , I can go down the same road at the same speed and downshift at the same time, sometimes there will be a tiny blip other times there will not . Launch control works fine as does flat foot shifting but I strongly believe the latter was responsible for the premature failure of my expensive twin plate clutch.
26 July 2011, 10:08 PM
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Yes running racerom,
Jura
The launch control works in a different way, I could not build boost with open source, with ecutec, I get 1.1bar of boost within 1 second.
The flat shift on open source was set at 5800 rpm, on the ecutec it works from the revs you change gear at + 100rpm
And there was no blip on down shift available on open source, and it is there on Ecutec,
But this could all be down to the mapper I suppose.
Bez
Jura
The launch control works in a different way, I could not build boost with open source, with ecutec, I get 1.1bar of boost within 1 second.
The flat shift on open source was set at 5800 rpm, on the ecutec it works from the revs you change gear at + 100rpm
And there was no blip on down shift available on open source, and it is there on Ecutec,
But this could all be down to the mapper I suppose.
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26 July 2011, 10:17 PM
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Yes running racerom,
Jura
The launch control works in a different way, I could not build boost with open source, with ecutec, I get 1.1bar of boost within 1 second.
The flat shift on open source was set at 5800 rpm, on the ecutec it works from the revs you change gear at + 100rpm
And there was no blip on down shift available on open source, and it is there on Ecutec,
But this could all be down to the mapper I suppose.
Bez
Jura
The launch control works in a different way, I could not build boost with open source, with ecutec, I get 1.1bar of boost within 1 second.
The flat shift on open source was set at 5800 rpm, on the ecutec it works from the revs you change gear at + 100rpm
And there was no blip on down shift available on open source, and it is there on Ecutec,
But this could all be down to the mapper I suppose.
Bez
26 July 2011, 10:19 PM
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26 July 2011, 10:20 PM
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The Isle of Man TT car was mapped with opensource software by myself and Steve Simpson, one of Subaru's own cars and broke a record not it's engine!
Opensource works, so does Ecutek, which is best? Neither, it's all about how knowledgeable the mapper is, end of!
Choose your mapper based on experience and feedback and stick to them like glue if the service is top notch. Down shift blip, launch and mafless are features really for show, running a MAF gives better driveability, so stick with it if the option looks good. Obviously they have limitations, but yours is capable of circa 400-450bhp.
If i can help any more don't hesitate in giving me a shout.
Graham
26 July 2011, 10:22 PM
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I wouldn't get too excited regarding Racerom. I waited nearly 2 years for it and to be brutally honest I was a little dissapointed. I wanted to go mafless but my car wouldn't run smoothly at low revs so the maf had to be left in, however some people have managed to go fully mafless so maybe its just an issue with my car. The downshift blip is barely noticeable and there seems to be no set pattern to it , I can go down the same road at the same speed and downshift at the same time, sometimes there will be a tiny blip other times there will not . Launch control works fine as does flat foot shifting but I strongly believe the latter was responsible for the premature failure of my expensive twin plate clutch.
As far as I know, When running mafless, it only goes Mafless when on full throttle, when just running round town it uses the Maf.
the down shift blip, I think mine is spot on,
only work above 60kph its gear / speed / RPM sensitive, so when working the car hard I get a good 800rpm blip car goes in gear easy.
PS. I am not mafless
Again this could be down to the mapper.
Bez
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26 July 2011, 10:38 PM
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I don't believe this is true as in your experience you believed the mapper let you down, not the type of software as ultimately both software do the same things.
The Isle of Man TT car was mapped with opensource software by myself and Steve Simpson, one of Subaru's own cars and broke a record not it's engine!
Opensource works, so does Ecutek, which is best? Neither, it's all about how knowledgeable the mapper is, end of!
Choose your mapper based on experience and feedback and stick to them like glue if the service is top notch. Down shift blip, launch and mafless are features really for show, running a MAF gives better driveability, so stick with it if the option looks good. Obviously they have limitations, but yours is capable of circa 400-450bhp.
If i can help any more don't hesitate in giving me a shout.
Graham
The Isle of Man TT car was mapped with opensource software by myself and Steve Simpson, one of Subaru's own cars and broke a record not it's engine!
Opensource works, so does Ecutek, which is best? Neither, it's all about how knowledgeable the mapper is, end of!
Choose your mapper based on experience and feedback and stick to them like glue if the service is top notch. Down shift blip, launch and mafless are features really for show, running a MAF gives better driveability, so stick with it if the option looks good. Obviously they have limitations, but yours is capable of circa 400-450bhp.
If i can help any more don't hesitate in giving me a shout.
Graham
26 July 2011, 10:41 PM
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I was run few months OS tune,just due features which has been available on bugeye ECU.I'm switching to Syvecs ECU but will be mapped by same mapper.
And due incompetence of few people from one company,when i want remap and he told me we must wait few months for EcuTek remap.
Yes this can be done mapper and this i can confirm.
These function are nice,but for people which are mainly on road hardly will use this.
Maybe Speed Density is nice,but doesn't work as i expected,but again this available on RaceRom for 06 models DBW,similar function is available to on OS,just depends on mapper..
Depends on mapper as i said.
Jura
And due incompetence of few people from one company,when i want remap and he told me we must wait few months for EcuTek remap.
Yes running racerom,
Jura
The launch control works in a different way, I could not build boost with open source, with ecutec, I get 1.1bar of boost within 1 second.
The flat shift on open source was set at 5800 rpm, on the ecutec it works from the revs you change gear at + 100rpm
And there was no blip on down shift available on open source, and it is there on Ecutec,
But this could all be down to the mapper I suppose.
Bez
Jura
The launch control works in a different way, I could not build boost with open source, with ecutec, I get 1.1bar of boost within 1 second.
The flat shift on open source was set at 5800 rpm, on the ecutec it works from the revs you change gear at + 100rpm
And there was no blip on down shift available on open source, and it is there on Ecutec,
But this could all be down to the mapper I suppose.
Bez
These function are nice,but for people which are mainly on road hardly will use this.
Maybe Speed Density is nice,but doesn't work as i expected,but again this available on RaceRom for 06 models DBW,similar function is available to on OS,just depends on mapper..
Jura
27 July 2011, 08:54 AM
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iv tried and tested both two with Ecutek and now with OS my first Ecutek was just a flash from another map i know as the mapper only took 30 min to map my car
,this was a well known garage who specialize in Subaru and evo s.The other ecutec remap i had was done on the rd by a mobile ecutek mapper (well known on sn) and two weeks later i took it to a rolling rd day at Area 52 to be told the fueling was not good as i was using the same amount of fuel pottering around as being on full pelt something to do with the open loop no being changed.
Iv also found that most people will get better results using OS then Ecutec well thats my pennies worth.
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