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Old 24 January 2011, 04:19 PM
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Default 99 WRX misfire PLEASE HELP!!

Hi there guys I need help please!!!!! My 99 WRX STI has an misfire and splutters between 3500rpm and 4800rpm then it pulls again. I had MAS sensor problems but that is sorted now. Has anyone got a wiring diagram as it sounds like spark though. Can it be spark plugs? I am sure it can be coils but I swoped it around with another set and still it does that. I am not to sure if it can be fuel cause doesnt make sense that it comes right at 4800RPM. Any help please guys!!!!
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Welcome to SNet.

Plugs are always my first port of call when a miss is occurring.

Remove, check condition and gap. Re-new or re-gap as required.

0.65mm
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Awsome bro thanks!!! Can it be anything else? Will get the plugs sorted then
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Awsome bro thanks!!! Can it be anything else? Will get the plugs sorted then
It's a Scoob==>(translation: could be a whole myriad of things)

To check the plugs condition and gap is free and easy to do. It is a good starting point where missing is an issue. From there you can work your way to the leads, coil pack and beyond. Personally i don't see the point of messing with anything until you have eliminated the sparks.

Have you done an ECU reset since sorting the MAF issues??
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Yes I did the ECU reset! Will do plugs and check.!!! Just hope I can get Scoob sorted!
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Yes I did the ECU reset! Will do plugs and check.!!! Just hope I can get Scoob sorted!
And the reset finished with the 'all clear' flash, yes??

In which case you know it is not sensor related.
Old 24 January 2011, 05:22 PM
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All clear no engine light and no fault codes....
Old 24 January 2011, 05:25 PM
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All clear no engine light and no fault codes....
Spot on. Get those plugs out.
Old 25 January 2011, 10:03 AM
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What is the correct spark plug???? Net says PFR6G and currently its running onIFR6T.
Please help!!!!!!!
Old 25 January 2011, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Demon Jinx
What is the correct spark plug???? Net says PFR6G and currently its running onIFR6T.
Please help!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by PeeVee
Subaru have fitted both the 6b & the 6g to their engines but have never used a "d"

93-95my = PFR6G
96-2000my = PFR6B
2001-2007 = PFR6G
2008 on = SILFR6A

The difference between the "b" & the "g" is the material that the cntr electrode is made out of.

I have found the "g" to be a more stable plug and less prone to missfiring, there have been numerous occasions on classic cars where the fittment of a 7b induced a missfire which was subsequently cured by fitting 7G's.

Phil
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Thanks b13.... This thing is realy a pain in the **** now..... I gapped the plugs but still the same. Can it be that the plugs a f.....ing me around? I mean the fact that they are not the right plug in the first place.. and also can they induce a misfire between 3500rpm and 4800 rpm?
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Yes, i would always use the NGK PFR??'s at 0.65mm.
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Ahhh shweet because the gap I got of the net is 0.8! Let me go and pick up plugs will post later again thanks again....
Old 25 January 2011, 11:03 AM
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if not change ht leads (had this problem ages ago changed leads then was fine) it only misfired at certin revs like urz. good luck mate
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Thanks Bolasti but this thing has got individual coil packs....... Any other suggestions?
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Originally Posted by Demon Jinx
Thanks Bolasti but this thing has got individual coil packs....... Any other suggestions?
I thought the MY99 had the single coil pack on top of the manifold.
Old 25 January 2011, 12:19 PM
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no worrys mate. theres a lot of info on this site only a matter of time b4 ya get her running sweet good luck
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Nope This is WRX STI has got individual coil packs......
Old 25 January 2011, 12:23 PM
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Thanks Bolasti..... Need all the help I can get!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 25 January 2011, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Demon Jinx
Nope This is WRX STI has got individual coil packs......
So you have these??

http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/part...en=&searchKey=
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Exactly the same bro! Is it possible to covert to single coil pack?? If so wiring Diagram please guys!
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Originally Posted by Demon Jinx
Exactly the same bro! Is it possible to covert to single coil pack?? If so wiring Diagram please guys!
Bugga! Been on the wrong track.

On the end of each pack is a rubber, as carefully as you can, pull off the rubber and check very closely for cracks around the exposed tip. If you see any cracks the you need to replace the pack. I had 2 go the other week after the Mrs blew my I/C pipe off, i managed to get a good used set off here for £70.

Yes can be converted, here you go. Bill did it a couple of weeks ago.

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...onversion.html
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Next Question how will I find the one that is buggerd if I cant find any cracks in them? any ideas??
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Originally Posted by Demon Jinx
Next Question how will I find the one that is buggerd if I cant find any cracks in them? any ideas??
If there are no visible cracks and they look in good condition, then they are usually considered to be good.

So back to the plugs.
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B13bat installed brand new plugs!!!! Still the same cganged all the coil packs still the same!!!! Next question!! What is the symptoms of a lamda sensor failure?? How can I test lamda? What will happen if I unplug?? Could that be my fault?
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Originally Posted by Demon Jinx
B13bat installed brand new plugs!!!! Still the same cganged all the coil packs still the same!!!! Next question!! What is the symptoms of a lamda sensor failure?? How can I test lamda? What will happen if I unplug?? Could that be my fault?
Lambda will give 'lumpy' idle/running and higher than normal fuel consumption. Not sure which Lambda you have, but if you find the loom plug where it connects, you will have 3 or 4 wires, the gold colored terminal is the signal wire, use a milti-meter with the engine at idle, it should read 0v-0.7v changing almost constantly. If it sits at a steady v then it is duff.

Again cost nothing to check.

edit: If you unplug whist running, then it should throw an error code/CEL

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Ok checked it.... I get a steady 5.3V reading? If a start the car the RPM goes up and goes down a few times before leveling out.... Can this cause my problem?
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Originally Posted by Demon Jinx
Ok checked it.... I get a steady 5.3V reading?
You get a steady 5.3v with the engine running and the Lambda connected?????



Originally Posted by Demon Jinx
If a start the car the RPM goes up and goes down a few times before leveling out.... Can this cause my problem?

Are you starting the car with the Lambda connected??

Could be. The thing with the Impreza is, it only uses the Lambda when off boost (open loop). When on boost (closed loop) the ECU takes over the fueling. So if the problem is there when on boost you probably have more issues than the Lambda.
But with a steady 5.3v on the signal wire, i would say yes, and it should be throwing a code 32 via the CEL too.
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No fault codes or anything!!! Doesnt realy make sense though!
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Originally Posted by Demon Jinx
No fault codes or anything!!! Doesnt realy make sense though!
No it doesn't.

I know the fault system has pretty wide parameters but to be getting 5.3v from the Lamdba should surely be enough to throw a fault.

Where abouts are you?? It may well be worth a trip to a good RR to see if they can pick it up. Probably cheaper than a new Lambda.

I know Scoobyworld do a rolling road check for £50.

Edit: Same sort of problem, just in a different range. https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...ew-member.html

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