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Old 23 January 2011, 10:22 AM
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Default head gasket change on v8 sti should i do shells aswell

hi i have done many head gasket changes on classic sti but i was always told that you should change the crank bearings at the same time.
but is this still the case with the newer sti v7 onwards where the blocks are much stronger
Old 23 January 2011, 11:05 AM
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Down that far. Yes defo. No matter if classic or new age
Old 23 January 2011, 11:18 AM
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Yes every time, its not much more work to strip it right out, plus if you don't it will be at the back of your mind that you should off, especially when it does go **** up.
Old 23 January 2011, 12:06 PM
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Yes, do it, plus make sure you get the right gaskets, especially if the heads/blocks get skimmed.
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ok cool cheers for that block strip it is, good job im no virgin at this block building game and i should of added that the head gaskets did not fail as i got the block from a running wr1

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Old 23 January 2011, 01:08 PM
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Most of the respected specialists recommend doing the bottom end if doing the HG/s, esp. if it's a Classic and/or if the motor's done circa 60k+ miles...
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for peace of mind im going to do it, the other thing is why has subaru never done gasket kits for 2.0l really does my nut in buying all the gaskets
Old 23 January 2011, 01:35 PM
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Which MY Classic have you got? MY93-98 (v.1-4), or MY99/00 (v.5/6)?
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no i have got v3 type r but the engine is for my v7 wrx
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Ah, I'm with yer.

The v.1-4 ones are 1.6mm, the v.5/6 are 0.6mm.

But not sure on the MY01 New Age Bugeye's. Try checking on RCM's site - I think they might be listed...
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Sorry i didnt mean the head gaskets i know what ones i need, What i meant was with most cars you can buy gasket kits ie crank seals, cam seals, water seals, but you find with subaru you have to buy one at a time that pushes the price up And to be honest i use api quick call to david and i have all the gasket i need for full rebuild also go with uprated oil pump with acl shells,
but it just bugs me that there is no complete rebuild kits oem spec or better out there

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Subaru do sell a complete gasket kit, but it contains absolutely every gasket, seal circlip, sealing washer etc used in building an engine from scratch and contains about 180 items.

You would find that if you bought one, you would end up with a lot of items unused and that would be a waste of money, a kit would cost you around £450 from a dealer.
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when i spoke to subaru in tumbridge they did not list a gasket kit

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Originally Posted by joz8968
Most of the respected specialists recommend doing the bottom end if doing the HG/s, esp. if it's a Classic and/or if the motor's done circa 60k+ miles...
sorry 2 be a div joz but im new to scoobys, i have a v1 sti thats on 65k ive given it the major service, gear and diff oil, plugs, oil and filter, fuel filter, belts etc. is there something else i need to do? or is it only if the head gasket goes?
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Originally Posted by Skeg Vegas v1 STI
sorry 2 be a div joz but im new to scoobys, i have a v1 sti thats on 65k ive given it the major service, gear and diff oil, plugs, oil and filter, fuel filter, belts etc. is there something else i need to do? or is it only if the head gasket goes?

No m8, Cambelt depending on when it was changed last(4 years or 50K)

The above thread is only if its broken, If your car runs fine leave it alone
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Originally Posted by 4evermad
when i spoke to subaru in tumbridge they did not list a gasket kit

Well then they are not looking in the right place... Tell them to look at illustration fig no: 002 in their parts system, it will not only give them a part number but will also list all parts and part numbers of the parts contained in the kit.

I did this before posting earlyier and counted the parts contained in the kit, which was 180.
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Originally Posted by Skeg Vegas v1 STI
sorry 2 be a div joz but im new to scoobys, i have a v1 sti thats on 65k ive given it the major service, gear and diff oil, plugs, oil and filter, fuel filter, belts etc. is there something else i need to do? or is it only if the head gasket goes?
Yes, ONLY if HG fails (as you'd be pulling motor out in this case).

Apparently, in a highish mileage car, it's common for non-refreshed bottom ends to fail soon after a HG change.
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thanks 4 explainin that mate, much appreciated
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