r1dude

hi all, i'm getting a wrx wagon tomorrow and have heard several bhp figures on it. does anyone know what bhp they kick out as standard? it's an import wrx wagon 1994 L reg. i've heard figures ranging from 220 (which i think the uk cars were) to 280bhp. only gonna do a few mods to it straight away, exhaust, induction kit and dump valve. thanks

joz8968

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Yep yours is 220PS (217bhp).

jura11

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Hi matey BHP i don't know...
No modification now,just get car checked by Subaru Specialist,if its OK etc.
At moment i will don't recommend induction/cone filter,due on your car is MAF is very weak,dump valve is bad idea(don't buy Bailey DV these are not recommended),if you are brought,return and use OEM valve.About the exhaust,i'm not sure,on some car will make more damage,if you want different sound,buy just good Backbox.
For these parts above you will need remap,but your ECU is not mappable,you may consider at future Apexi Power FC(around £400) if you will be hungry for power.


Jura

Glowplug

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Welcome to SNet.

Yes, if still standard then 220ps.

Forget the IK. Absolutely ZERO gains to be had in your case. You may even lose some horses.

Forget the DV unless you are re-fitting the OE recirc item. You will upset the air fuel ratios and possibly cause running issues before you start.

Get a good quality fully de-cat system to release a few more horses. Your vehicle does not require any cats for the MOT emissions so make the most of it.

The money you save on the IK and DV use to buy a KnN panel filter for the OE air box, some new NGK PFR6B plugs and a cam belt service kit if due.

r1dude

220bhp eh, i was sure that the uk ones were 220 and imports were more, but i bow to your superior knowledge as i've not had one before as i've been a skyline man

TonyBurns

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208bhp on a uk one and 217bhp on the jdm, funny thing is that the JDM has a td04 turbo and the uk one of the same age has the bigger td05, and note that the JDM will need super unleaded (v power.99 ron) fuel only.

Tony

wimpy

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I also have a MY94 Import wagon. You will need cats for the mot but easy to change back once a year. As already said Induction for yours will be a wast of time and could do more harm than good at this stage. aslso as said stay away from cheep dump valves. save up for a remap and mods its well worth it. my wagon now runs 314 hp with 346ftlb torque.

r1dude

are the wrx import saloon models more bhp than the wagon wrx import models then? and if so, why?

Glowplug

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Here we go again, EFA Pre '95 imports do NOT require any cats to pass the emission test. FACT. Read the threads below.

https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...t-testers.html

https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...lp-needed.html

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...o-t-decat.html

wimpy

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For the past 3 years i have had to put my cat down pipe back on as it failed on the emissions. FACT all were done at different mot stations.

Glowplug

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FFS. Have you not read the threads i linked?

If you do not believe what i say, then ring or email Vosa, they will tell you exactly the same. FACT.

No import is captured in the In Service Emissions Data as it is a UK only publication. FACT.

I don't care how many MOT stations you've been to, i am right and you and your testers are wrong. FACT.

wimpy

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I will have to check this out as it has cost me each year to have the cat put back on. Not read the links as it is what i have had to do.

Glowplug

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F.A.O MOT Testers is well worth the read mate. I have listed all the info in there.

This is the email reply i received from VOSA:

Reply from VOSA.

"Dear Mr B,

Thank you for your email enquiry dated 23rd September 2010, concerning an emissions test.

The 'In Service Emissions' booklet is a UK specification booklet. If the
vehicle is an import then this information would not be captured in this
booklet. As the vehicle in question is an imported vehicle then depending
on the age would depend on whether the vehicle would be required to go
through a non-CAT test or whether it would go through a CAT test using the
default limits.

You have stated that vehicle registration B13 BAT is a 1993 vehicle. Due
to this the vehicle would be required to go through a non-CAT test and need
to meet the following limits:

CO <= 3.5%
HC <= 1200ppm

I hope this information has assisted you with your enquiry, but if you have
any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us again.

Kind Regards

Rebecca
VOSA Contact Centre
Operations Directorate
Tel: 0300 123 9000"

wimpy

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Just been reading through the links and the email you got above. Once i got my head around it it makes me understand a little more. I will be having a little chat with the mot station on will also email vosa so i get a proper copy with my reg stated ready for the next one. I will be mega pissed if its just another way of getting money out of us for replacing the cat and after taking it back off. Will let you know.

Iain

scoobybaz64

b13bat is correct this is my reply from vosa
a vehicle first used between 1st august 1992 and the 1st july 1995 would need to have a cat emissions test if an exact match for the vehicle details
could be found either in the emissions analyser database or the current edition of the in service exhaust emissions book.

however, an imported vehicle would not be deemed an exact match in this
context, and therfore a non-cat emissions woulb be required

my tester new this

r1dude

as above?

Glowplug

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If you are suggesting r1dude, that the reason for the import having more power is due to the fact that it has no cats. Then it is not so. As imports, strangely enough they come over with OE cats factory fitted.

r1dude

no, i just thought that the jap cars had more power and the uk cars had less due to our restrictions on emisions, noise etc etc etc

nessscoob

This is 100% correct I've been through it before. Use the relevant docs above and show your mot tester.

nessscoob

Follow this link and scroll down to see the list of applied model codes. Will tell all bhp ratings that apply for classic jdms

BLACK V5

Yes the saloons are between 240-280ps depending on year.

Glowplug

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Yeah, i would think that is more likely to be the reason.

nessscoob

https://www.scoobynet.com/showthread...ed+model+codes

midnight

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As said above ,YES the wrx saloons did have more power than there counterpart wagons ie: wrx wagon 220 ps ,wrx saloon 240 ps. This contonued all the way right up to version 6 where the wrx saloon had 280 ps and the wrx wagon had 250 ps,with exception to the Sti wagon

The main reason for this was because japan regarded the sports wagon as a more touring member of the 'wrx' family hence it came with a slightly detuned engine/ecu.

r1dude

thanks for the input everyone. i looked at the wagon today and it wasn't anywhere near as good bodywise as i'd been told so i didn't buy it. think i may go for a newer model as i really like the hawkeye shape

Glowplug

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Good man.

No need to saddle yourself with a dog or a rust bucket in this climate, it is a buyer market and there are some nice examples to be had out there.