jef

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the dark weather and sh*t on the road is really showing up how poor my front lights are on my 94 sti

are there better bulbs i can buy to give me a bit better vision

i dont know anything about h4 blah blah, ideally i just want better bulbs without wiring anything in ect

thanks

prodriverules

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You should get some 100% brighter xenon max one's jef,i have them in myn and what a difference

Glowplug

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Yeah, as Ryan says.

Mine turned up this morning

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=230561918961

Not fitted them yet though.

jura11

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Guys probably worth go for HID kit,2 months ago i fit HID kit on my bug and difference is amazing.

Glowplug

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That is my next step Jura11.

I have been reliably informed by a few people that the focus is a problem on the Classic when retro fitting HID kits. I've tried all sorts of bulbs. We will see (excuse the pun).

midnight

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If you just want better vision than your std bulbs opt for some philips extreme vision or some osram nightbreaker plus, both give a considerable more light than the standaed H4 bulbs and cost between £14 - £20. A dead simple upgrade imho

jef

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thanks people

midnight, think thats sounds like the plan for me

can i just pick these at a motor factors?

joz8968

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I got Aztec's main/dipped beam HID kit. Only about £98 delivered (inc. a free set of LED sidelight bulbs). Diff between OEM set up and it are, er... night and day.

But, as above, if not wanitng to spend that much, then a set of uprated regular H4s will help...

Glowplug

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I had funnier out of my cracker.

midnight

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Just as cheap to get them off ebay, philips extreme :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PHILIPS-X-TREM...item35aedac83c


or the osram :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/OSRAM-NIGHTBRE...item588bbb9d12

joz8968

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I'm here all week (literally).

TonyBurns

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I have some nice blue/white ones on my V5 STI Type R, no idea what make but better than the standard by a mile

harvey

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Hi Jef,
The best bulbs I have found so far in H4 for a Classic are Phillips Rally 100/90 which I obtained from www.powerbulbs.co.uk and there was a free set of bright sidelight bulbs FOC. These are "off road" bulbs. Prior to that I was using GE General Electric Plus 60.
With others I was involved in doing a lot of bulb testing with offerings from PIAA, Philips, Osram and numerous others and including two sets of HID in H4.
If you do any cross country driving out of town away from urban lighting the HIDs are not an option in my opinion because of the scatter on full beam but they can be very good on dipped but I want good long range vision for cross country driving.
On single filament bulbs such as H7 or H1 the HIDs can be very good and I have just fitted a set to Dawn's car H7 which is a big improvement over the originally fitted bulbs. That kit came from HIDs Direct, 50w and just over £60 delivered.
HTH.

P1Drifter

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+1 for Phillips Rally 100/90

joz8968

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Harvey, would you say the Philips Rally 100/90 H4s bulbs to be more effective/easy to see the road ahead in pitch darkness, than a full-on genuine H4 HID kit, then?

alcazar

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I don't know about Harvey, but I SUSPECT his answer will be yes.

For my own part, the answer is defintely yes.

joz8968

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I take it the Philips Rally 100/90's won't work with the HID ballasts then?

Glowplug

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I would think not Joz. The Phillips are just 'standard' H4/1/7's.

You might get some extra light though, just for a second or so, as they explode out of the headlight units.

joz8968

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lol yeah that's what I thought.

Presumably, the HID H4 bulbs possess thicker elements to handle the extra amps?

EDIT: Oh hold on, the HIDs are xenon gas discharge types, aren't they. Presumably they don't use filaments? (Sorry, not looked into the detailed science of it lol)

EDIT EDIT: Yep, no conventional filament in xenons.

Glowplug

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Yeah, the ballasts are inverters Joz, i've seen them rated at 25000 volts.

joz8968

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My giddy aunt!

dunx

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I seriously recommend that people consider adding uprated wiring if running 100 W bulbs, it only needs a five pin changeover relay and some terminals to be safe .

Doubling the current draw is borderline on the OEM wiring, IMHO.

dunx

P.S. To really see properly, out in the "twisties", get some auxiliary lights to replace the fog "candles"...

P.P.S. I may ask "Bob'5" to lend me a H4 kit for some testing...

alcazar

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Have you got any H4's then dunx?

harvey

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That is exactly what I said at the post above.

In a twin filament H4 bulb the dip beam can be very clear and focused but on full beam there is so much scatter that the range and penetration which is what you need for fast country driving is just abismal.
We have a particular place we test headlights. All the H4 HIDs tested to date have not had the clarity or range available from the bulbs I was using, GE General Electric Plus 60 or the Phillips Rally 100/90 which are even better still.
That said, some of the H4 HIDs on dip only were nery good. I want the best I can get in performance terms so on H4 I will stay with the Phillips Rally for now. Single filament H7 as refered to above at £60 a set are great on the Wife's car.

joz8968

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Cheers.

Even my HID kit's bulbs have that scatter on full beam.