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Old 13 April 2010, 11:21 AM
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On start up my cousin's Scooby is noisy and sounds like its knocking

As soon as the car is warm the noise completly disapears , i'm sure i've read that forged lumps are noisy on cold start but can't remember

Also the car is stupid quick and loses no power
Old 13 April 2010, 11:31 AM
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Normal to sound like a skeleton wanking in a biscuit barrel when cold , but as long as all goes quiet when 80C or so then fine
Old 13 April 2010, 11:40 AM
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I got my car back from scoobyclinic a couple weeks ago, after a forged 2.1 build and have to agree its very noisy when cold!

Makes tapping noises and alsorts, gets better when warm but still has some noises. When i have the turbo connected up and it get "properly warm" i was assured by them it will be quiet.

Its the pistons that make the noise. They are slightly too small for the bores and click at the end of each stroke, when the car warm/hot they expand and fit the bores, hence go quiet.
Old 13 April 2010, 01:47 PM
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mine sounds like an old escort diesel when cold, soon quietens down when warm.
Old 13 April 2010, 02:00 PM
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Its good to hear other peoples experience! I was very paranoid about mine lol Mine seems to get better and better as i get closer and closer to it being run in.
Old 13 April 2010, 02:07 PM
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Mine too. Some piston slap when cold, and the injectors are really noisy all the time which led me, at first, to think I had cam bucket problems. Had me worried for a few days
Old 13 April 2010, 02:15 PM
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the make of piston make a big difference as well.
Old 13 April 2010, 03:11 PM
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Dont know about the OP but mine are Marhle 2.1 pistons with STI 10 rods.

Are they noisy pistons?
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I have Mahle pistons (with Manley rods) and I was told that Mahle ones are generally quieter than others. Assuming they're sized right of course!
Old 13 April 2010, 04:02 PM
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Thats cool. I shouldnt worry as the engine builder at SC told me it was completely normal, and when the turbo is hooked back up then they should quiet down significantly.
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thanx for the reply's peeps
Best thing about it all is he brought the car not knowing what goodies it has
Old 13 April 2010, 06:46 PM
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just out of interest how does he now what is in there has he been told it has forged pistons
Old 13 April 2010, 07:57 PM
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My forged lump is noisy as hell. sounds like the big ends gone when cold.
I drive it real slow up to about 80 on the temp guage. Pistons knocking away...oil also getting past them a touch....
Then gradually start driving it touch harder. get the oil temp up to 90...wait to the car feels right and nice and warm.
Then I give it all hell - loads of heat into the pistons and it is sweet as anything. Pulls great. Pistons now fitting the bores - still a slight piston noise but it dies right into the background.

So my experience is that the engine is only sounds truely happy when it is hot and it is really being worked.
Old 13 April 2010, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DaOne
the make of piston make a big difference as well.

And the piston to bore clearance - depends what it was set to when it was built


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Old 14 April 2010, 01:27 AM
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You sure they told you once the turbo is on it will go quiter?? I don't get it??

I heard coated pistons don't make noise again not sure?
Old 14 April 2010, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by mus 1st class sti type r
You sure they told you once the turbo is on it will go quiter?? I don't get it??

I heard coated pistons don't make noise again not sure?

No slap from yours eh Mus
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running great no slap or funny noises mate lol
Old 14 April 2010, 11:33 AM
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Tbh I dont either. I guess with the turbo running and full revs, the engine will get hotter than non turbo 3.5k revs, expand the pistons more ect

If it does still sound bad ill be asking questions as its under warrenty.
Old 14 April 2010, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bealescooby
thanx for the reply's peeps
Best thing about it all is he brought the car not knowing what goodies it has
So, has it actually had a re-build with forged components?
Although the title is "Are forged engines noisey" you haven't actually confirmed that it was re-built?

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Old 14 April 2010, 09:53 PM
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My newly run-in build with Mahle pistons (not sure what clearance) and Manley rods (phnaar phnaar) is quiet when cold. Has a slight tappety 'tick' at tickover when fully warm, very slight and am not sure of cause. Could be injectors, but they weren't noisy before the build... Otherwise runs great and has loosened up nicely over the last 1000 on fully synth (following the first 1500 on mineral).
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my forged engine was very quite for the first years or so then it got a little sounds when first tunred on in the mornign for the first minutes but my bores where done really well but in time all engines loosen up a bit
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Mine sounds like a diesel with big ends gone when cold, still slaps a little if off boost and up to temp.... but it all disappears when on full power - I call it the calm with the storm, lol
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Mine was rebuilt by Zen with STi 3/4 pistons. I have the piston slap too, when cold. But once warmed through at c.83C, all's fine. Never slapped at all on the original WRX non-forged pistons. Bloody slappers lol.

It's 'normal' - well, on forged pistons at least.

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Old 16 April 2010, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bealescooby
On start up my cousin's Scooby is noisy and sounds like its knocking

As soon as the car is warm the noise completly disapears , i'm sure i've read that forged lumps are noisy on cold start but can't remember

Also the car is stupid quick and loses no power
mine isn't noisy at all and it's an RCM forged one lol!
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