Notices

remap or polar performance chip?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 22 August 2009, 10:47 AM
  #1  
scooby87
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
scooby87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 663
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default remap or polar performance chip?

What do you guys think is best, now obviously with about a £300 price difference i'm assuming the the remap will be better. ??

But from what i read about the polar performance chip it seems to be very very good for £195!! ??

Will it make my car safe for UK fuel as well? well safe for 99tesco or Vpower??
Old 22 August 2009, 10:57 AM
  #2  
myblackwrx
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
myblackwrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Dorset
Posts: 8,787
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

tbh a remap gives you waaaay more flexibility if you want to add more mods (changing turbo,injectors etc)
What impreza do you have?
Old 22 August 2009, 11:01 AM
  #3  
scooby87
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
scooby87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 663
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

96 wrx import, yea but i wasn't really planning on doing any mods for a long while yet.

It came with an exhaust and filter, so ideally i just want to make sure its running safe and well for now and power is just a bonus!
Old 22 August 2009, 11:21 AM
  #4  
myblackwrx
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
myblackwrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Dorset
Posts: 8,787
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Well your car is safe on the 99 fuels anyway.
Take it to a good rolling road and for about £50ish they can tell you healthy your car is at the mo.
As for mods it all depends on how much you can/want to spend really always worth looking through the Project threads for ideas.

With associated mods your car can get to 300bhp quite easily and be a rapid car
Old 22 August 2009, 11:29 AM
  #5  
scooby87
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
scooby87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 663
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'm trying not to mod lol, said to myself i wouldn't go for power straight away. Its hard to resist haha.

So basically just leave the chip alone for now and wait for a remap yea?
Old 22 August 2009, 11:40 AM
  #6  
myblackwrx
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
myblackwrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Dorset
Posts: 8,787
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

imo yes ,plenty of people are happy with chip but the remap is better.
I would also spend some money on your brakes as if you have the 2 pots still they are quite lacking in stopping power (possibly before you increase the power)
Old 22 August 2009, 11:43 AM
  #7  
joz8968
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
joz8968's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Leicester
Posts: 23,761
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Lightbulb

You dont need to pay £195 for the PP chip.

If you check the classifieds on here or ebay, you quite often see 2nd hand MY93-96 4-plug ECUs with the PP chip pre-fitted for around the £80 mark! So just swap it over and play!...

The PP chip's AFR's are okay for full decat/system/filter, so your exhaust/filter mods will be fine.

If you pick up a cheap 2nd hand bellmouth downpipe for around £60 second hand... get it fitted... then with the PP, you should be producing anywhere between 260-280bhp. Make sure you use at least any 97 RON - but preferably Esso Supreme (what the chip's designed around) - or of course V-Power 99...

...HOWEVER!...

I've just seen this!:-

Subaru Impreza wrx/sti ESL daughter board chipped ecu!! on eBay (end time 26-Aug-09 21:10:53 BST)

This is the MAPPABLE! daughterboard (already pre-fitted in a replacement ECU too!) and it means that you can get a custom map done for you motor (and future ones too!), thus making it as safe as possible, etc. JGM can travel to you to map it for no more than £250+VAT (might even be less for the ESL - not sure)

Also, unless you intend to change the TMIC before the remap, you could sell the supplied 440s to get back a bit of cash (c.£60-80), as your existing 380s you already have will make 280bhp i.e at the TMIC's limit anyway!...

Last edited by joz8968; 22 August 2009 at 11:49 AM.
Old 22 August 2009, 11:53 AM
  #8  
scooby87
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
scooby87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 663
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by myblackwrx
imo yes ,plenty of people are happy with chip but the remap is better.
I would also spend some money on your brakes as if you have the 2 pots still they are quite lacking in stopping power (possibly before you increase the power)
It has upreated disk and pads on the front, but i've noticed there not to great really. So definately some breaks would be a good idea!

Originally Posted by joz8968
You dont need to pay £195 for the PP chip.

If you check the classifieds on here or ebay, you quite often see 2nd hand MY93-96 4-plug ECUs with the PP chip pre-fitted for around the £80 mark! So just swap it over and play!...

The PP chip's AFR's are okay for full decat/system/filter, so your exhaust/filter mods will be fine.

If you pick up a cheap 2nd hand bellmouth downpipe for around £60 second hand... get it fitted... then with the PP, you should be producing anywhere between 260-280bhp. MAke sure you use at least any 97 RON - but preferably Esso Supreme (what the chip's designed around) - or of course V-Power 99...

...HOWEVER!...

I've just seen this!:-

Subaru Impreza wrx/sti ESL daughter board chipped ecu!! on eBay (end time 26-Aug-09 21:10:53 BST)

This is the MAPPABLE! daughterboard (already in pre-fitted in a replacement ECU too) and it means that you can get a custom map done for you motor (and future ones too!), thus making it as safe as possible, etc. JGM can travel to you and could map it for you for no more than £250+VAT (might even be less for the ESL - not sure)

Also, unless you intend to change the TMIC before the remap, you could sell the supplied 440s to get back a bit of cash (c.£60-80), as the 380s you already have will make 280bhp (i.e at the TMIC's limit anyway!)...
Oh right that would be a much better idea, £80 sounds a bargain to me and i already have the downpipe on the car.

A mappable ecu would be much prefered though, purely for when i inevitably add some mods.

Yea i was planning on keeping the TMIC for now...
Old 22 August 2009, 12:14 PM
  #9  
myblackwrx
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
myblackwrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Dorset
Posts: 8,787
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Most people (including me) went with the later model 4 pots (they've SUBARU embossed on them) with braided hoses,,uprated fluid, standard discs and uprated pads.

It will cost about £400ish,yes it's a lot but ,imo,worth it i've never got brake fade with them unlike the 2 pots which are quite scary when braking hard repeatedly.

Always have a look in the For Sales section on here as there is always a bargain to be had.
Old 22 August 2009, 12:14 PM
  #10  
joz8968
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
joz8968's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Leicester
Posts: 23,761
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by scooby87
...Oh right that would be a much better idea, £80 sounds a bargain to me and i already have the downpipe on the car...
Annoyingly, theere was a PP-chipped ECU on ebay a few days ago!

But keep looking, one WILL turn up...
Old 22 August 2009, 12:19 PM
  #11  
joz8968
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
joz8968's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Leicester
Posts: 23,761
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

I too have the OEM 4-pots/braided lines/carbon-metallic pads/Godspeed 6-grooved discs on my WRX. Significantly better than the rubbish 2-pots - and are a MUST IMO... even at the std 240PS!

The 4-pots are most certainly NOT the last word in decent brakes for the Impreza by any means...... but for the money and compared to those damn 2-pots? A no-brainer.

Last edited by joz8968; 22 August 2009 at 01:02 PM.
Old 22 August 2009, 12:47 PM
  #12  
Glowplug
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (8)
 
Glowplug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: On The Road!
Posts: 5,027
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

As said above, the remap is more flexible than the pp chip, i've had the chip fitted for nearly 2 years now and am very happy with it but i intend no more power modsThe car is plenty fast enough and boosts to a very nice 17psi (1.172107 bar) Scott was/is doing 30% off the chips see here https://www.scoobynet.com/trader-ann...de-30-off.html

On the brakes front i have just purchased a set of s/h 4 pots from SN (nice one Micky) and a set of drilled and grooved front discs with Mintex pads off ebay for a grand total of £220, just have to source some braided hoses this week and it's all go for next weekend

All the best in what you choose

Last edited by Glowplug; 22 August 2009 at 03:03 PM.
Old 22 August 2009, 01:57 PM
  #13  
scooby87
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
scooby87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 663
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Cheers guys will keep a look out for a pp chip on ebay or another mappable ecu like in the link above, its a shame i can't buy that one untill i get paid.

Wow there really are a lot of options out there for me! 4 pots sound like a very good idea and i'll probably go down that road and hopefully find them for a good price.

It has ebc grooved and dimpled disk on with yellow stuff pads at the moment, so will get the 4 pots first then use those disks and pads.
Old 22 August 2009, 02:01 PM
  #14  
Glowplug
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (8)
 
Glowplug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: On The Road!
Posts: 5,027
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by scooby87
Cheers guys will keep a look out for a pp chip on ebay or another mappable ecu like in the link above, its a shame i can't buy that one untill i get paid.

Wow there really are a lot of options out there for me! 4 pots sound like a very good idea and i'll probably go down that road and hopefully find them for a good price.

It has ebc grooved and dimpled disk on with yellow stuff pads at the moment, so will get the 4 pots first then use those disks and pads.
You will require 4 pot discs and pads mate, can't just fit the calipers, discs and pads are a different size
Old 22 August 2009, 02:31 PM
  #15  
scooby87
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
scooby87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 663
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Lol dam, that would of been too easy really anyway haha.
Old 22 August 2009, 02:33 PM
  #16  
joz8968
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
joz8968's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Leicester
Posts: 23,761
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Yeah, the 4-pot discs are 294mm (not 277mm as for the 2-pots).

To keep things straightforward, you can't go wrong with with the ubiquitous Ferodo DS2500 pad and a decent make fo brake disc - loads out there..
Old 22 August 2009, 02:37 PM
  #17  
joz8968
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
joz8968's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Leicester
Posts: 23,761
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by scooby87
Lol dam, that would of been too easy really anyway haha.
There are lots of decent 294mm discs avaialbe for around £100. Same with the pads...
Old 22 August 2009, 03:36 PM
  #18  
myblackwrx
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
myblackwrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Dorset
Posts: 8,787
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Whilst we are going on about brakes what wheels do you have?
As the 4 pots will not fit under 15" wheels and quite a few 16" wheels i found this out when i fitted my 4 pots and the fecking wheels clipped the caliper DOH
Old 22 August 2009, 04:36 PM
  #19  
joz8968
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
joz8968's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Leicester
Posts: 23,761
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Yes, mbwrx makes a valid point (that I overlooked!). The MY97>on 16" 5-spokes with the triangular scallops at the end of the spokes obviously fit the 4-pots.

There's always a set available on ebay, for not too much coin...

Last edited by joz8968; 22 August 2009 at 04:47 PM.
Old 23 August 2009, 02:19 AM
  #20  
scooby87
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
scooby87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 663
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Fortunately i have 18" wheels on the car.

That would of been something i would of totally forgotten about though, bought the brakes and then realised my wheels are too small lol!
Old 23 August 2009, 10:45 AM
  #21  
myblackwrx
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
myblackwrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Dorset
Posts: 8,787
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Well in that case maybe the Brembo option may be better value (along with a good pad/disc combination) although once again you may need to check the clearance.

Or if you do think of just upgrading to 4 pots then Godspeed Motorsport Home Page offers big brake upgrades for the 4 pots.
Old 23 August 2009, 11:16 AM
  #22  
joz8968
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
joz8968's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Leicester
Posts: 23,761
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Yeah I agree with mbwrx - your 18" wheels have opened up your options somewhat (only if you are willing to pay for better, of course!)

OEM Brembos... or AP Racing, etc.

How about the K-Sport kit? With a decent pad - e.g. like the Pagid Blue 4-2-2 - it's allegedly a well decent option for around a £grand (+ fitting)...

Last edited by joz8968; 23 August 2009 at 11:17 AM.
Old 23 August 2009, 11:21 AM
  #23  
scooby87
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
scooby87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 663
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Soooo many options!!! this is going to take a long time to decide. Without looking at anything yet though for some reason i like the sound of Brembos
Old 23 August 2009, 02:13 PM
  #24  
uk300scoob
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (24)
 
uk300scoob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: united kingdom
Posts: 2,027
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

personaly i would go for a remap brings most of each mod and smooths everything out
Old 23 August 2009, 02:18 PM
  #25  
will_wrx
Scooby Regular
 
will_wrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Northampton
Posts: 871
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'll be using the Polar Performance chip on my Wagon, I dont want crazy power at the moment, so this is perfect for me. I'll be happy with anywhere near 300hp. Whilst I build a motor for the future. Lol.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Pro-Line Motorsport
Car Parts For Sale
48
21 July 2017 09:50 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
28
28 December 2015 11:07 PM
scoobhunter722
ScoobyNet General
52
20 October 2015 04:32 PM
FuZzBoM
Wheels, Tyres & Brakes
16
04 October 2015 09:49 PM
madmover
Member's Gallery
4
28 September 2015 10:46 AM



Quick Reply: remap or polar performance chip?



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:43 AM.