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Old 03 May 2008, 03:29 AM
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Question 450BHP TURBO ?

hello you lot can you lot recommend a definate 450bhp turbo .

considering a engine build 2.2 forged engine / just curious to what turbo people would go for .

considering a MD 321 H but this probly only 400 or just over, im after a bit more running reliable 4**bhp / running on v power and maybe nf booster A forrest map ,

any suggestions would be good thanks a lot .
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SC50 Turbo this is a 500BHP turbo and will sit at 450 no problem with torque levels to match
Or MD321T which is good for 450BHP also
Both are about the same price...
SC50 £1195
MD321t £1295
there might be cheaper out there but i think these are 2 of the best ones if you want reliablity.
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Originally Posted by IRC450STI
SC50 Turbo this is a 500BHP turbo and will sit at 450 no problem with torque levels to match
Or MD321T which is good for 450BHP also
Both are about the same price...
SC50 £1195
MD321t £1295
there might be cheaper out there but i think these are 2 of the best ones if you want reliablity.
thanks for the info relay interesting ,
what do you think to the md 321 h on a 2.2 L engine
what would you think this would make in bhp .
maybe this is all i need but i definately want 400+ and the engine should be capable of 500bhp .
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I used to have the 321h on a 2ltr last year and it was mapped to 383hp 350 torque before i changed to the SC46.
On a 2.2 you should get just over 400 with the 321h
Its a very good turbo very quick spool lot of fun
But i would recomend the 321T or SC50 if you want 450 with room to spare cos i think the 321H would be at its max at 400+HP
SC50 on a 2.2 will be excellent choice imo as you should see more torque than HP depending on mods ie heads etc
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Old 03 May 2008, 04:09 AM
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When i had SC46 on a 2ltr it made 400HP & 400 Torque only because the heads i had were at there max this turbo should be good for 450+ also on a 2.2ltr with right heads & mods
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321H on a built 2.2 engine cranked up to two bar would make for an astonishingly quick road car with tremendously accessible torque. I'm running around the 420bhp mark at the moment on a 321H/2.0L but that's using V-Power and 10% methanol. I'm planning a built engine myself (probably 2.5) and am tempted to stick with the 321H initally to see how I get on. At 3000-4000rpm and 2bar, I should be gaining an extra 100bhp and 100lb/ft of torque
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Have a chat with Mark @ Lateral !

LOL

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P.S. Supposed to be doing mine (321H) now.... !
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getting the work done at a s performance .

just getting a few ideas re what turbo to go for , i dont want to build the engine
forge etc and only get 400 , im greed like that ha ha .......

thanks for the info .
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If you can be bothered with messing with methanol, a 2 litre (STI) could make around 450 bhp with an MD321H !

I hope, mines in bits at the moment.... bloody bolts mumble !

Halfords first thing tomorrow LOL

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Originally Posted by dunx
If you can be bothered with messing with methanol, a 2 litre (STI) could make around 450 bhp with an MD321H !

I hope, mines in bits at the moment.... bloody bolts mumble !

Halfords first thing tomorrow LOL

DunxC
naah not bothered about methanol petrol is already a fortune init ,

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Originally Posted by GROWLER_GRRRR
naah not bothered about methanol petrol is already a fortune init ,



V-Power - around 115p per litre
Methanol - around 70p per litre
Old 03 May 2008, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by lunar tick


V-Power - around 115p per litre
Methanol - around 70p per litre
you must be one of the methanol boys from alston aka the splinter group !

might be summit to consider cheers for the info .
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Originally Posted by GROWLER_GRRRR
you must be one of the methanol boys from alston aka the splinter group !

might be summit to consider cheers for the info .
Spot on - there's a few of us in the 'meth gang' up here in the hills
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is the 2.2 open deck or closed mate????
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I'm using the MD321S on a 2.35

Running 496hp 480 ftlb @ 1.7 Bar
Old 03 May 2008, 08:40 PM
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Have a chat with AET Turbos.

I tested a few standard position turbo's on my 2.5L Cosworth engine. One of them achieved 480bhp @1.4bar and the current one achieves 530bhp @ 1.7bar. All done on VPower.
Old 03 May 2008, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BadJK
is the 2.2 open deck or closed mate????
Closed deck block
Old 03 May 2008, 09:21 PM
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I have a md321T on my forge 2.5 .....great combo
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I have not seen anyone say anything about the FP Green Turbo.

You can import one from the states for about £900 and that is with delivery.

Will all so do the 450bhp your looking for.
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TD06-20g 8cm^ or TD05-20g 8cm^ will get u 450bph on a 2.2L .
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thanks for all the info
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Have a chat to Mark at Lateral Performance 020 8420 5444 if you are planning a 2.2 build (good advice and prices).

Although the MD321T will do over 450bhp on a 2.2 he also has an MD321T+ turbo now, which should do over 500bhp on a 2.2 build all still in the standard mount position.
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another vote for the MD321T here
mine's making 464/505 on a built 2500cc

no meths (yet )
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What's the difference in 321T and 321T+?Comp wheel?
Old 06 May 2008, 12:07 PM
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I hate these bloody threads!!


Always giving me ideas I can't afford!!!!
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Originally Posted by STiFreak
Have a chat to Mark at Lateral Performance 020 8420 5444 if you are planning a 2.2 build (good advice and prices).

Although the MD321T will do over 450bhp on a 2.2 he also has an MD321T+ turbo now, which should do over 500bhp on a 2.2 build all still in the standard mount position.

loving the info keep it coming dudes ..... its all money but your not here long so ENJOY IT .
Old 06 May 2008, 10:25 PM
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nice and interesting thread..

I'd also like to know what else should be done for 450 bhp..

pistons, conrods? gearbox?
720cc injectors?
anything else ?
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Originally Posted by austrianscooby
nice and interesting thread..

I'd also like to know what else should be done for 450 bhp..

pistons, conrods? gearbox?
720cc injectors?
anything else ?
Yep, Rods,Pistons,Crank,Bearings,740cc injectors,fuel reg,fuel pump,fmic or a good tmic,oil cooler,A good ECU to control it all,clutch & flywheel,ppg gearbox or 6 speed, depends on which model of scoob i guess, OH! BRAKES would be nice, a bit of green stuff ££££, and a huge big cheesy grin when you put your foot down WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH !!!!!!!!!!!! POP POP BANG !

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Originally Posted by IRC450STI
when you put your foot down WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH !!!!!!!!!!!! POP POP BANG !

I hate you for that just kidding mate

I've got STi V4.. looking for that 450

But atm can't afford it pink stuff €€€ are lost atm

That's fitted atm:

SARD Fuel reg
XS-Power FMIC
Apexi Power FC
Brembo 4-pots Front - Rear still to come


Next plan is an uprated gearbox.. looking for a 6-Speed or PPG bargain..

and maybe I find a cash cow next time

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