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GROWLER_GRRRR 03 May 2008 03:29 AM

450BHP TURBO ?
 
hello you lot can you lot recommend a definate 450bhp turbo .

considering a engine build 2.2 forged engine / just curious to what turbo people would go for .

considering a MD 321 H but this probly only 400 or just over, im after a bit more running reliable 4**bhp / running on v power and maybe nf booster A forrest map ,

any suggestions would be good thanks a lot .

IRC450STI 03 May 2008 03:44 AM

SC50 Turbo this is a 500BHP turbo and will sit at 450 no problem with torque levels to match :thumb:
Or MD321T which is good for 450BHP also
Both are about the same price...:wonder:
SC50 £1195
MD321t £1295
there might be cheaper out there but i think these are 2 of the best ones if you want reliablity. :thumb:

GROWLER_GRRRR 03 May 2008 03:48 AM


Originally Posted by IRC450STI (Post 7849552)
SC50 Turbo this is a 500BHP turbo and will sit at 450 no problem with torque levels to match :thumb:
Or MD321T which is good for 450BHP also
Both are about the same price...:wonder:
SC50 £1195
MD321t £1295
there might be cheaper out there but i think these are 2 of the best ones if you want reliablity. :thumb:

thanks for the info relay interesting ,
what do you think to the md 321 h on a 2.2 L engine
what would you think this would make in bhp .
maybe this is all i need but i definately want 400+ and the engine should be capable of 500bhp .:thumb:

IRC450STI 03 May 2008 04:02 AM

I used to have the 321h on a 2ltr last year and it was mapped to 383hp 350 torque before i changed to the SC46.
On a 2.2 you should get just over 400 with the 321h
Its a very good turbo very quick spool lot of fun
But i would recomend the 321T or SC50 if you want 450 with room to spare cos i think the 321H would be at its max at 400+HP
SC50 on a 2.2 will be excellent choice imo as you should see more torque than HP depending on mods ie heads etc

GROWLER_GRRRR 03 May 2008 04:06 AM

:thumb:

IRC450STI 03 May 2008 04:09 AM

When i had SC46 on a 2ltr it made 400HP & 400 Torque only because the heads i had were at there max this turbo should be good for 450+ also on a 2.2ltr with right heads & mods :thumb:

lunar tick 03 May 2008 12:26 PM

321H on a built 2.2 engine cranked up to two bar would make for an astonishingly quick road car with tremendously accessible torque. I'm running around the 420bhp mark at the moment on a 321H/2.0L but that's using V-Power and 10% methanol. I'm planning a built engine myself (probably 2.5) and am tempted to stick with the 321H initally to see how I get on. At 3000-4000rpm and 2bar, I should be gaining an extra 100bhp and 100lb/ft of torque :freak3:

dunx 03 May 2008 02:09 PM

Have a chat with Mark @ Lateral !

LOL

DunxC

P.S. Supposed to be doing mine (321H) now.... !

GROWLER_GRRRR 03 May 2008 05:21 PM

bttt
 
getting the work done at a s performance .

just getting a few ideas re what turbo to go for , i dont want to build the engine
forge etc and only get 400 , im greed like that ha ha .......:thumb:

thanks for the info .

dunx 03 May 2008 06:36 PM

If you can be bothered with messing with methanol, a 2 litre (STI) could make around 450 bhp with an MD321H !

I hope, mines in bits at the moment.... bloody bolts mumble !

Halfords first thing tomorrow LOL

DunxC

GROWLER_GRRRR 03 May 2008 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by dunx (Post 7850497)
If you can be bothered with messing with methanol, a 2 litre (STI) could make around 450 bhp with an MD321H !

I hope, mines in bits at the moment.... bloody bolts mumble !

Halfords first thing tomorrow LOL

DunxC

naah not bothered about methanol petrol is already a fortune init ,

:p :thumb:

lunar tick 03 May 2008 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by GROWLER_GRRRR (Post 7850502)
naah not bothered about methanol petrol is already a fortune init ,

:p :thumb:

:nono:

V-Power - around 115p per litre
Methanol - around 70p per litre :cool:

GROWLER_GRRRR 03 May 2008 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by lunar tick (Post 7850520)
:nono:

V-Power - around 115p per litre
Methanol - around 70p per litre :cool:

you must be one of the methanol boys from alston aka the splinter group !

might be summit to consider cheers for the info .:luxhello:

lunar tick 03 May 2008 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by GROWLER_GRRRR (Post 7850523)
you must be one of the methanol boys from alston aka the splinter group !

might be summit to consider cheers for the info .:luxhello:

Spot on - there's a few of us in the 'meth gang' up here in the hills :norty:

BadJK 03 May 2008 08:06 PM

is the 2.2 open deck or closed mate????:)

FB Tuning 03 May 2008 08:09 PM

I'm using the MD321S on a 2.35

Running 496hp 480 ftlb @ 1.7 Bar :)

ex-webby 03 May 2008 08:40 PM

Have a chat with AET Turbos.

I tested a few standard position turbo's on my 2.5L Cosworth engine. One of them achieved 480bhp @1.4bar and the current one achieves 530bhp @ 1.7bar. All done on VPower. ;)

IRC450STI 03 May 2008 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by BadJK (Post 7850668)
is the 2.2 open deck or closed mate????:)

Closed deck block :thumb:

bighead 03 May 2008 09:21 PM

I have a md321T on my forge 2.5 .....great combo :thumb:

Going 4 400bhp 03 May 2008 11:10 PM

I have not seen anyone say anything about the FP Green Turbo.

You can import one from the states for about £900 and that is with delivery.

Will all so do the 450bhp your looking for.

Dr B 04 May 2008 12:17 AM

TD06-20g 8cm^ or TD05-20g 8cm^ will get u 450bph on a 2.2L .

GROWLER_GRRRR 04 May 2008 01:21 AM

bttt
 
:thumb: thanks for all the info :idea:

STiFreak 04 May 2008 08:16 AM

Have a chat to Mark at Lateral Performance 020 8420 5444 if you are planning a 2.2 build (good advice and prices).

Although the MD321T will do over 450bhp on a 2.2 he also has an MD321T+ turbo now, which should do over 500bhp on a 2.2 build all still in the standard mount position.

scoobyDAZZA 04 May 2008 03:43 PM

another vote for the MD321T here :)
mine's making 464/505 on a built 2500cc

no meths (yet ;) )

swisstonihasher 06 May 2008 11:55 AM

What's the difference in 321T and 321T+?Comp wheel?

New_scooby_04 06 May 2008 12:07 PM

I hate these bloody threads!!


Always giving me ideas I can't afford!!!! :)

GROWLER_GRRRR 06 May 2008 02:27 PM

enjoy it
 

Originally Posted by STiFreak (Post 7851313)
Have a chat to Mark at Lateral Performance 020 8420 5444 if you are planning a 2.2 build (good advice and prices).

Although the MD321T will do over 450bhp on a 2.2 he also has an MD321T+ turbo now, which should do over 500bhp on a 2.2 build all still in the standard mount position.


loving the info keep it coming dudes ..... its all money but your not here long so ENJOY IT .:thumb:

austrianscooby 06 May 2008 10:25 PM

nice and interesting thread..

I'd also like to know what else should be done for 450 bhp..

pistons, conrods? gearbox?
720cc injectors?
anything else :D ?

IRC450STI 07 May 2008 02:49 AM


Originally Posted by austrianscooby (Post 7857008)
nice and interesting thread..

I'd also like to know what else should be done for 450 bhp..

pistons, conrods? gearbox?
720cc injectors?
anything else :D ?

Yep, Rods,Pistons,Crank,Bearings,740cc injectors,fuel reg,fuel pump,fmic or a good tmic,oil cooler,A good ECU to control it all,clutch & flywheel,ppg gearbox or 6 speed, depends on which model of scoob i guess, OH! BRAKES would be nice, a bit of green stuff ££££, and a huge big cheesy grin :D when you put your foot down :lol1: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH !!!!!!!!!!!! POP POP BANG !

austrianscooby 07 May 2008 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by IRC450STI (Post 7857399)
when you put your foot down :lol1: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH !!!!!!!!!!!! POP POP BANG !


I hate you for that :cry: :luxhello: just kidding mate ;)

I've got STi V4.. looking for that 450 :Whatever_

But atm can't afford it :cry: pink stuff €€€ are lost atm :D

That's fitted atm:

SARD Fuel reg
XS-Power FMIC
Apexi Power FC
Brembo 4-pots Front - Rear still to come :(


Next plan is an uprated gearbox.. looking for a 6-Speed or PPG bargain..

and maybe I find a cash cow next time :D


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