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Old 23 January 2008, 12:18 PM
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Default Which ECU gives you the ability to remove the MAF??

Does the GEMS remove the MAF ?

i don't think the APEXi unit can, can it?


I am worried about getting an ecu & mapped with the MAF, this failing and it costing me !!

you hear the horror stories about the MAF's.

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Old 23 January 2008, 12:28 PM
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SIMTEK does for sure.

Speak to david at APi

MAFs are usually easy to spot when failing though; not sure you need to pay 1k for a new ECu to get around this problem. £200 gets you a knocklink fitted and it will tell you if the car is running lean and detting if you miss the other signs.

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Old 23 January 2008, 12:37 PM
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yeah there is symptoms when they go. ecu's wise the list

Motec (only some units though iirc)
simtec
autronics
gems (although not heard many good things about em tbh, i do know they have brought out some new ecu's so they may be improvments)
hydra

and i'm sure i've missed some off
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i'm currently torn between an APEXi unit and possibly a GEMS ??
Old 23 January 2008, 12:45 PM
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i'm currently torn between an APEXi unit and possibly a GEMS ??
Old 23 January 2008, 12:50 PM
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If you want the Apexi, you can get a MAF sim conversion, this eliminates the Maf by taking a boost and rpm signal to generate a MAF Voltage.
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Had both ecus on a my99 sti5 with the same mods and on the apexi it is a much better drive all round and much smoother.

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SITEK's are turning up everywhere now, so this must be the right direction to take?

Bit like the 20g giving way to the MD321's?
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the LINK G3 also dose not need a maf

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simtec all the way
Bob Rawle in swindon is now doing them for all years
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what you looking at though for a simtek £1k ??
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
SIMTEK does for sure.

Speak to david at APi

MAFs are usually easy to spot when failing though; not sure you need to pay 1k for a new ECu to get around this problem. £200 gets you a knocklink fitted and it will tell you if the car is running lean and detting if you miss the other signs.

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The Simtek will flash the CEL light to indicate Knock activity
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Originally Posted by Leg@cy
The Simtek will flash the CEL light to indicate Knock activity
Yep, I know mate, my point was that the OP seemed to indicate that his main reason for wanting to change ECU was cause of concerns about MAF failure related DET. Changing the ECU would be a bit overkill for this; a knocklink would be much more economical.

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Originally Posted by SSCJAY
If you want the Apexi, you can get a MAF sim conversion, this eliminates the Maf by taking a boost and rpm signal to generate a MAF Voltage.
How you do that?
Whats needed for that?
Please explain a little bit
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I have tried the Autronic,the Apexi and am now running a Simtek.The autronic was great when running and did away with the MAF,but was a nightmare to get started from cold.
So had an Apexi fitted which is fantastic for starting and ideling but had to go back to using a MAF.I then had an engine rebuild and upped the power which led to a number of MAF failures(to the point of carrying a spare,for roadside repairs).So I tried the Simtek ,it starts perfectly within 2 turns and is a joy to drive,with the added advantage that there is no MAF and is fully mappable for any future upgrades.
Contact David at API
http://www.apiengines.com/
as he is very helpful.
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
Yep, I know mate, my point was that the OP seemed to indicate that his main reason for wanting to change ECU was cause of concerns about MAF failure related DET. Changing the ECU would be a bit overkill for this; a knocklink would be much more economical.

Ns04
sorry......
Old 23 January 2008, 05:38 PM
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The official line from Simtek is you need a combination of dyno and on road testing to get the best from this ECU, the same as many others.
We find the benefits make the choice to switch to this unit a no brainer.
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Originally Posted by burns
I have tried the Autronic,the Apexi and am now running a Simtek.The autronic was great when running and did away with the MAF,but was a nightmare to get started from cold.

surely thats mapping rather than the ecu, ive got a autronic, with no ICV, that pavlo mapped, i started it the other day (first time this year) first flick of the key, with no throttle and it just purred!!
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Originally Posted by old bob
surely thats mapping rather than the ecu, ive got a autronic, with no ICV, that pavlo mapped, i started it the other day (first time this year) first flick of the key, with no throttle and it just purred!!
Don't get me wrong it would always start eventually but for everyday use it wasn't suitable for me ,and it was mapped a number of times to try to cure this issue by one of the very well known companies up north,without luck.As I said when running it was a gem of an ecu but cold enrichment was always ropey.
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Originally Posted by austrianscooby
How you do that?
Whats needed for that?
Please explain a little bit
I'm afraid I don't know much more about it than that, I breifly spoke with Jolly Green Monster about it as I am undecided wether to go down this route or go for something like the simtek.

Send JGM a pm sure he would be happy to help.
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Originally Posted by burns
I have tried the Autronic,the Apexi and am now running a Simtek.The autronic was great when running and did away with the MAF,but was a nightmare to get started from cold.
So had an Apexi fitted which is fantastic for starting and ideling but had to go back to using a MAF.I then had an engine rebuild and upped the power which led to a number of MAF failures(to the point of carrying a spare,for roadside repairs).So I tried the Simtek ,it starts perfectly within 2 turns and is a joy to drive,with the added advantage that there is no MAF and is fully mappable for any future upgrades.
Contact David at API
Welcome to the API website
as he is very helpful.
my autronics was till it was wteeked, start perfect now , even after being sat for three weeks lol
Old 24 January 2008, 11:40 AM
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If you'd like a comprehensive low down on the Simtek, contact Martyn @
Alan Jeffery - Engine Tuner as he's mapped more of these than anybody else.
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Hey up Alan you never did get call me back about the fitting kit for the Garrett based MD195S.

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