chocolate_o_brian

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hi quick dilemma.

i was kaning my scoob yesterday, set off in 1st, changed into 2nd at 6500 rpm (7000-9000 redline), then changed into 3rd at 6500-6600 rpm. when i got to 5000ish rpm in 3rd looking to go into 4th i just had like a loss of power. the gear hadnt popped out or anything and my foot was on the accelerator and it just went from 5000ish to over 8000 as though you were driving out of gear pressing down on the accelerator. its done it a coulpe of times but only when i floor the beast.

have i killed the poor sod or what guys and girls? afterwards it ran fine but i have to slow down and pop it into 4th or something. its quite scary actually.

any ideas or similar experiences???

morpheous

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Clutch slipping m8

chocolate_o_brian

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which means il need a new clutch at a guess. what sort would be good as a standard replacement?? i believe the set up now is a 93-96 wrx one all the way through.

Tidgy

exceed organic clutch tend to be a good one, depends how mad you wanna go, got loads of spare cash get an hks twin plate paddle clutch

chocolate_o_brian

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im lost now, twin plate paddle sounds like a semi automatic to me lol. like one on a super car that you press a button to change gear. i dont wanna kill my car just open it up on roads now and again and give it some beans. gearboxes clucthes etc inc diffs are not my thing at all, im more of a exterior guy, i like to draw pretty pics and am just learning about the mechanical side of a scooob.

Tidgy

no mate its not that kind of paddle lol

pretty much it has only a bite point, no part engaged, its either engaged or disengaged, still have the floor pedal and works the same way as far as driving, just mean than when you drop the clutch theres no slip(or little) and it bites and goes.

twin plate referes to it having two plates in it to give extra strength (as i understand it), tends to quite pricey but is better for big power.

if your not running big power and not doing hard launch's often then you'll be ok with the excedy one

chocolate_o_brian

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yer i was looking through ebay and have seen a few around the £150-£230 mark. im not sure though if i need the 225mm or 230mm, again not my thing clutches.

Tidgy

i'd stay weell clear of ebay mate as far as clutch's go, bear in mind most specialists charge £500 for a good clutch s you can tell from price difference the quality of it

chocolate_o_brian

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oh yer of course. i was on a website i know called www.camskill.com (thats not free plug by the way!!) and they do all sorts for jap cars from scoobs to skylines tec, uk models jap models even mars models!!! they have a few standard replacements and uprated ones. the clutch on mine now bites very quick and thats what im after but im not sure of the size again...

Tidgy

might be just worth paying a visit to a local specialist, cos by the time you've got it fitted its not gonna be much price difference, in fact camskill do the clutch for mine for £555 (excede ones) www.scoobyclinic.com do an uprated paddel clutch for £595+vat, but thats a fitted price (which can be very pricey at some places due to trouble getting gearbox out)

chocolate_o_brian

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ah i see, so if i was to go to a specialist subaru garage and tell them right this is whats wrong fix it please, they would give me a quote for buying the part and a fitted price? il try the scoobyclinic website anyway. i know that theres a subaru garage in horncastle but thats the nearest one to me and im in scunny as i cant say s****horpe coz the stupid pc thinks im swearing!!!

Tidgy

pmsl, tut tut musn't swear.

i use the clinic myself but i'm fairly local, alot of people do travel a long way to get there though.

jaytc2003

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You could try harvey on here, he is based in darlington I think and used to do a standard borg and beck for £250 inc fitting

chocolate_o_brian

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borg and beck? sorry i have no idea what these terms mean? bit like bttt and stuff. help

mechzoe

Think I had a similar problem with mine yesterday, went to overtake a truck, dropped down into third and booted it. Halfway past I got a severe power loss which lasted about 2 secs and felt like i'd hit something!! It was scary as there was a lorry coming the other way and I had to pull back in!! I'm wondering if it is the coil pack breaking up?? I tried again and it happened again twice!! Lifted the bonnet and checked for anything obvious but can't see anything

jaytc2003

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That sounds more like fuel cut due to overboosting which is a whole different kettle of fish. Only usually happens in higher gears.

its just the make of the clutch.

chocolate_o_brian

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mechzoe,

sounds exactly like what happened to me. i found out when i was trying to overtake a caravan on the a15, nice bit of straight road and in higher gears i.e. 5th just a power loss and the revs shoot up into the 8000s unless you take off all pressure on the accelerator.

its an older turbo engine in mine though think its round 93/94 in a 95 car. overboost, you mean its possible to kane these beasts too much lol.

CRX-Ownage

I had throttle issues with my crx once where the revs just went redline after trying to change gear, turned out to be a sticky throttle cable.

perhaps check that before replacing your clutch.

jaytc2003

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fuel cut wont send your revs to 8000. Your revs will drop. Overboost can happen for a number of reasons, usually ice cold weather being the main one, decats another popular one and split hoses etc.

Are you sure you didnt just hit the rev limiter??? and I hope its an sti and not a wrx

chocolate_o_brian

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well the day it happened wasnt cold, bout 15 degrees c and yes its a wrx i believe never had it checked though. my cars got a few different parts on it. it passed its mot 2 months ago just before i bought it. nah it was weird my foot was right down on the accelerator and the revs were climbing up neatly through to 5000ish and then they just shot right up as though i had my foot on the clutch and the accelerator simultaniously. did this untill i slowed right down to 70mph in 5th doing round 3100/3200 rpm.

i dont think i could have hit the limiter as ive had 140/150mph out of it at 6700rmp and was doing round 100/110mph at the time it happened. now where near the limiter. if i set off fast and hit the limiter by accident before changing its a loss of power but totally different. this was really weird.

jaytc2003

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8000 rpm exceeds the rev limit of a wrx engine so if you rev gauge showed that then you would have been 1000 rpm over the limit (or your gauge is faulty) thats not good. Personally I would have it in 4th or 5th gear at about 30/40mph and put your foot flat to the floor. If it is the clutch you should be able to find out by doing this, ie revs rise but car speed doesnt match the revs.
Another possibility is if you were caning it and had done some traffic light gp's then the clutch was probably very very hot which could also cause it to slip.

chocolate_o_brian

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well i was on my way to hibaldstow and instead of going striaght on at motlash hill towards brigg and through scawby i took a right and went the a15 route. nice fast road as long as theres no rozzers. no traffic lights or anything. was doing bout 50 in 5th, dropped it to 3rd to overtake the caravan and it went upto 5000ish revs no probs but then a loss of power and revs shot upto 8000 and i took all power off all pedals and let her coast. revs went straight back down to 5000ish (remembering the cars slowing right down) and i pop her into 4th, then 5th and when i reach 4500 revs in 5th the same happens. i didnt know if id sucked something up or if like you say she was hot, but shouldnt have been, no reason to be.

i think one of the problems is i dont know enough about turbos and boost etc as my last scoob was a sport so was easy to maintain. all i could think of doing is when i have the cash, getting her booked in for a decent service by a scooby specialist as long as i dont get ripped off.

the guy i bought the car off didnt know a great deal about subaru engines either or so he said, so im just hoping i havent got a dud.

so if i was to kane it from now on either from a rolling start or standing start what would be the ideal revs to change into various gears bearing in mind my rev counter says i have a 7000/9000 redline like most wrxs. id usually hit 6500/6800rpm upto 4th... need some tips

here she is in all her glory... must buy a decent camera though this is my phone...

jaytc2003

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If it is a wrx engine, with a wrx ecu then your rev limit should be 7k. Ignore the red line on the rev counter, your car will not go to 9000 rpm. I have a speedo that says 180 mph (not kph), but the most I have done is about 110, and I know it wouldnt get anywhere near 180.
Power I think starts to drop off after about 6300rpm I think so its pointless going further unless your on a track and need every last ounce. Why don't you go to one of these track type days and have driver tuition. If you are going to go around caning it, then at least you will do it in a "safer" manner (no disrespect here but you shouldnt be doing 6800 rmp in 4th as that totally exceeds the speed limit and your car wont last to long giving it that kind of stick)

nice car btw

chocolate_o_brian

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its worth thinking about a track day i guess. i think i misinterpreted my driving style. i dont kane it everywhere, after writing off my first scoob for no fault of my own besides wanting to save a little furry animal running out in front of me, ive learnt to drive sensibly and only open her up when

1. i can see plenty of clear straight road ahead
2. i can afford the petrol as im only getting 18mpg on tesco 99 as it is lol.

also i meant i change at 6500/6800 going from 1st to 2nd to 3rd upto going into 4th. not 4th to 5th!! christ id kill her if i did that. its an older scoob engine as it is. and besides by then ive kaned most things that have tried to race me anyway lol, like i said though when the above 2 conditions are met...

thanx for the compliment though on my car. i feel a little arkward posting pics of her on here because i keep seeing all these newer age sti ppp wrx ra rb5 22b etc models and i think mine looks a little erm **** compared to them . not looking for sympathy but there are some really nice cars on here worth far more than mine, but im only 21 with a mortgage and girlfriend with expensive taste. its all i can afford at the moment. sod it il sell her on ebay (the mrs) and get some phat wheels and a remap for the other bitch in my life!!!

theres my rant over