Fuel rails- flow reversible..?
#1
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Half way up
Posts: 4,791
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Fuel rails- flow reversible..?
May sound like a silly question, but can the flow direction be reversed throught the fuel rails..? (05 WRX) Obviously oem reg. would need replacing (SX awaiting fitment..!)
I'm planning on doing the parellel feed mod and it strikes me that if the flow can be reversed through the o/s fuel rail most of the oem fuel pipe under manifold can be used. Just a case of a couple of 'T' pieces, short amount of additional fuel hose and a little re-plumbing..!
Am I talking utter b@llocks, if not it has to be the easiest method of doing this mod..!
I'm planning on doing the parellel feed mod and it strikes me that if the flow can be reversed through the o/s fuel rail most of the oem fuel pipe under manifold can be used. Just a case of a couple of 'T' pieces, short amount of additional fuel hose and a little re-plumbing..!
Am I talking utter b@llocks, if not it has to be the easiest method of doing this mod..!
#2
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (30)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: FB Tuning Workshop - HP27
Posts: 4,219
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If you're converting to a parallel feed, then it doesn't make any difference which way the fuel flows through each bank, as long as you position the fpr at the end of the run.
If you are fitting an aftermarket reg (and 90 degree elbow in place of the standard regulator) then you can keep the standard series setup, and still run the fuel through in the reverse direction.
If you are fitting an aftermarket reg (and 90 degree elbow in place of the standard regulator) then you can keep the standard series setup, and still run the fuel through in the reverse direction.
#3
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: In the Flatlands of Lincolnshire
Posts: 2,892
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Saw an article similar, it was saying rather than fit a parrallel setup to improve the fuel dist to pot 3. Just reverse the feed and return lines when fitting a after market regulator thus putting pot 3 at the start of the supply. So hopefully reducing the risk of piston melt due to excess heat and reduced fuel supply. Not tried yet anyone done it and got comments? See this thread and yes I was pi$$£d when I started it
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...highlight=fuel
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...highlight=fuel
Last edited by 360ste; 17 April 2006 at 08:40 PM.
#4
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: In a 405 BHP/360 ft/lb P1 with SN superstar Sonic dog at my side!
Posts: 1,959
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
360ste you are referring to a classic set up, and Jasonius has an 05. Subaru have reversed it themselves for later cars. I have reversed it on my classic, just swapped the pipes over.
#5
If theres anyone in the know then help me out with this plz
https://www.scoobynet.com/general-technical-10/507921-just-a-bit-of-advise-plz.html
https://www.scoobynet.com/general-technical-10/507921-just-a-bit-of-advise-plz.html
#7
Scooby Regular
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: In a 405 BHP/360 ft/lb P1 with SN superstar Sonic dog at my side!
Posts: 1,959
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by DaveW
But if you reverse the flow then surely the last one in the line can still run lean?
Trending Topics
#8
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Half way up
Posts: 4,791
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by fiestaboy
If you're converting to a parallel feed, then it doesn't make any difference which way the fuel flows through each bank, as long as you position the fpr at the end of the run.
If you are fitting an aftermarket reg (and 90 degree elbow in place of the standard regulator) then you can keep the standard series setup, and still run the fuel through in the reverse direction.
If you are fitting an aftermarket reg (and 90 degree elbow in place of the standard regulator) then you can keep the standard series setup, and still run the fuel through in the reverse direction.
P1mark; IIRC the fuel flow on my 05 WRX is 4-1-3-2 (nsr-nsf-osr-osf) oem reg at the front of o/s bank (ie after #2).
I know the newage STi has the reg. on the rear of the n/s bank, does this mean the supply is different to the wrx or just that the reg. in a different location..?
Finally, how important is it to keep hoses/pipes equal length..? If it is an important issue then my idea of utilising the original pipework (reversed) is a no a brainer..!
#9
The route for fuel is:
From tank - fuel pump - filter - rails (either single or parallel) - regulator - return to tank.
Keep to that and you'll be ok, so if you are running the oem reg then you'll need to move it so its the last thing before the return to the tank.
And it probably is worth making the fuel lines the same length in a parallel conversion, although it can't be that important as just look at what you have at the moment.
I'm getting another set of rails and cutting them up and using hose to link them up in parallel, it will mean removing the manifold but I need to do that anyway.
From tank - fuel pump - filter - rails (either single or parallel) - regulator - return to tank.
Keep to that and you'll be ok, so if you are running the oem reg then you'll need to move it so its the last thing before the return to the tank.
And it probably is worth making the fuel lines the same length in a parallel conversion, although it can't be that important as just look at what you have at the moment.
I'm getting another set of rails and cutting them up and using hose to link them up in parallel, it will mean removing the manifold but I need to do that anyway.
#10
Im feeding the rails from both ends. So i need to have another fitting drilled in that manifold i got made and fit the pressure regulator/return hose to it? I was just thinking if i T'ed into the supply hose it should maintain the desired pressure to the rails. On some new cars the regs in the fuel filter by the tank.
#11
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Half way up
Posts: 4,791
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by DaveW
The route for fuel is:
From tank - fuel pump - filter - rails (either single or parallel) - regulator - return to tank.
Keep to that and you'll be ok, so if you are running the oem reg then you'll need to move it so its the last thing before the return to the tank.
And it probably is worth making the fuel lines the same length in a parallel conversion, although it can't be that important as just look at what you have at the moment.
I'm getting another set of rails and cutting them up and using hose to link them up in parallel, it will mean removing the manifold but I need to do that anyway.
From tank - fuel pump - filter - rails (either single or parallel) - regulator - return to tank.
Keep to that and you'll be ok, so if you are running the oem reg then you'll need to move it so its the last thing before the return to the tank.
And it probably is worth making the fuel lines the same length in a parallel conversion, although it can't be that important as just look at what you have at the moment.
I'm getting another set of rails and cutting them up and using hose to link them up in parallel, it will mean removing the manifold but I need to do that anyway.
BTW is you car a newage (sti or wrx)..?
#13
Ecu Specialist
You can't run through the reg in reverse, you need to remove the factory reg and use an open adaptor then use the sx on the flow pipe entry and connect the tank feed to the old return point. better than std. On a GC8 it makes a huge difference, not so much on a GDA/GDB.
bob
bob
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
28
28 December 2015 11:07 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
12
18 November 2015 07:03 AM
hedgecutter
General Technical
3
25 September 2015 02:35 PM