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Old 05 January 2006, 12:03 AM
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Still looking into power upgrades for my scoob , i've gone off the 400HP idea, which i asked about a few months back...instead, im looking for around 340-350ish mark, with similar high torque if possible.

I was thinking of a turbo from a spec c or late STi, because i would really like a rapid spooling turbo rather than a laggy one, apart from the injectors, fuel pump blah blah, could i use my standard STi Top mount??, as fitting a Sti8 after reading through 911's thread seemed a bit of a task!!

Car is a 97Sti


thanks for any help!
Old 05 January 2006, 05:22 PM
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the later twin scroll turbo wont fit on classic headers, up pipe r different afaik
you could go for a vf28 off sti5 or P1 just about manage your power figure
Old 05 January 2006, 07:24 PM
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have got 303 bhp and 322ft/lbs torque,with headers turbo back magnex system and ecu chip on my 95 wrx import well happy
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Ask David from API engines he sells twin scroll kits that include all necessary parts (manifold, oil pan/stick, downpipe, turbo etc).
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Thanks Jim, You're correct we do sell that, but in this guys case I am not sure that he will get where he wants to be, and certainly not cheaply. The VF28 from a P1 / STi 5 or 6 won't make any difference, that he notices, on what he has now.

Porting and polishing his headers and lighter flywheel [ 7 kgs ] will almost certainly be the best [ cheap], simple option and in my experience seems to do exactly what he is looking for.

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Old 05 January 2006, 10:08 PM
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Cheers everybody for the replies,i have a set of headers waiting to go on here, so i will see how they work.

I still like the idea of a new turbo, but its probably not worth the hassle; as said,if my current one can be pushed near that figure...the Api set-up does sound tempting though
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Originally Posted by Stiver3
Hi

Still looking into power upgrades for my scoob , i've gone off the 400HP idea, which i asked about a few months back...instead, im looking for around 340-350ish mark, with similar high torque if possible.

I was thinking of a turbo from a spec c or late STi, because i would really like a rapid spooling turbo rather than a laggy one, apart from the injectors, fuel pump blah blah, could i use my standard STi Top mount??, as fitting a Sti8 after reading through 911's thread seemed a bit of a task!!

Car is a 97Sti


thanks for any help!
Maybe a Power Enterprise PE1818 - these are modified IHI turbos with larger compressors that have the ability to flow 18m3/min (635CFM). They are good for 350HP+ and have good spool as they have the P18 turbine housing (same as VF23). The PE1820 is also an option, good for 400HP+ but has quite a bit of lag due to the P20 exhaust housing (same as VF22)

Both of these turbos should be a direct bolt on too....

A twin scroll conversion will give you the numbers you are looking for with high torque, but lots of $$$$$

Check out http://dyno.scoobynet.co.uk/uk/andrew_tang2.htm, this is a PE1818 setup making 354BHP/298lbft. Torque curve is a little laggy for a PE1818, that turbo probably doesn't like the FMIC on the car.
Old 06 January 2006, 12:16 PM
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thast pretty low torque for a PE1818 isnt it? or is that normal? i would have expected more 330lbft?
Old 06 January 2006, 12:32 PM
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VF23 has a P20 turbine housing.

Aftermarket headers or bigger turbos will kill your spool up. From experience I would avoid VF hybrid turbos as despite posher bearings they don't give the overall response and power band of a TD05 based hybrid IMHO.

A good remap with your stock turbo, ported headers and an intercooler upgrade would probably be best bang for buck.
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