sensors for S.E.C.S unit?
sensors for S.E.C.S unit?
27 December 2005, 07:39 PM
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You need to buy the Defi sensors, they connect into the terminal block at the rear, if you don't have the manual then I think there is a pdf of it on the website. They aren't cheap. You'll need to make up an extension loom to go from the sensor back to the Psi unit.
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27 December 2005, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Rawle
You need to buy the Defi sensors, they connect into the terminal block at the rear, if you don't have the manual then I think there is a pdf of it on the website. They aren't cheap. You'll need to make up an extension loom to go from the sensor back to the Psi unit.
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Are the Defi ones the only ones you can use?
28 December 2005, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Lord Bass
What do u mean by sandwich plate?
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28 December 2005, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord Bass
i don't think so i had to mount the defi oil temp sensor above cylinder 3 (i think) there is a bung that u unscrew then just screw the sensor in its place.
28 December 2005, 08:13 PM
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Yes you can use a sandwich plate, the STi kit (which is STi badged Defi stuff) is supplied with sandwich plate ready for install.
The data unit is callibrated to use the defi sensors, so any sensor using the same acllibration can, in theory, work.
bob
The data unit is callibrated to use the defi sensors, so any sensor using the same acllibration can, in theory, work.
bob
29 December 2005, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Rawle
Yes you can use a sandwich plate, the STi kit (which is STi badged Defi stuff) is supplied with sandwich plate ready for install.
The data unit is callibrated to use the defi sensors, so any sensor using the same acllibration can, in theory, work.
bob
The data unit is callibrated to use the defi sensors, so any sensor using the same acllibration can, in theory, work.
bob
Thank you Bob
Best stick to the Defi ones then as that whats its set up for, will i be able to purchase a loom for connection to the s.e.c.s unit and will i be able to get the parts needed from any defi dealer? I`ve a service due soon so just as well get the bits now ready for fitting when the oil filter is changed.
29 December 2005, 07:56 AM
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The Oil Temperature / Pressure kits we sell come complete with everything you need for the install, including the loom and OEM Subaru adaptor for the oil temp. sensor.
We also have the Greddy Oil Filter sandwich plates in stock if you prefer to mount it that way, as Bob has said there are pdf downloads on our website for the install and connection of sensors.
Simon
www.psi3.co.uk
We also have the Greddy Oil Filter sandwich plates in stock if you prefer to mount it that way, as Bob has said there are pdf downloads on our website for the install and connection of sensors.
Simon
www.psi3.co.uk
29 December 2005, 11:54 AM
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I've owned a SECS for a few years now and just recently upgraded it with the addition of the Defi oil pressure/temp sensors.
No need for the sandwich plate in my opinion - unless you were already planning an oil change?
Oil temp is an intercooler off job - remove the 8mm blanking allen plug above cylinder 3. Screw in the adaptor bung and then the Defi temp sensor.
Oil pressure - remove the existing sensor just behind the alternator and replace with the Defi unit.
The wires that come with each sensor were more than long enough to get to the back of the SECs unit.
Follow the guide off the PSI3 website - the stubby spanners recommended for the oil pressure sensor are definitely needed and save you taking the alternator off.
I have big hands and limited mechanical experience but managed the job easily. Wiring is also easy and I got the sensors and adaptor bung from xtreme scoobies for £184 delivered.
Special mention has to go to both Simons at PSI for their excellent support they'll know who I am when they read this! Hope you had a great Christmas guys!
No need for the sandwich plate in my opinion - unless you were already planning an oil change?
Oil temp is an intercooler off job - remove the 8mm blanking allen plug above cylinder 3. Screw in the adaptor bung and then the Defi temp sensor.
Oil pressure - remove the existing sensor just behind the alternator and replace with the Defi unit.
The wires that come with each sensor were more than long enough to get to the back of the SECs unit.
Follow the guide off the PSI3 website - the stubby spanners recommended for the oil pressure sensor are definitely needed and save you taking the alternator off.
I have big hands and limited mechanical experience but managed the job easily. Wiring is also easy and I got the sensors and adaptor bung from xtreme scoobies for £184 delivered.
Special mention has to go to both Simons at PSI for their excellent support they'll know who I am when they read this! Hope you had a great Christmas guys!
10 January 2006, 12:57 PM
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that was the one thing that put me off getting secs monitor,having to pay for extra sensors and labour to fit-it all seemed to mount up.
i am sure power engineering told me the oil presssure switch had to be weded in! in order to get accurate reading
martin
i am sure power engineering told me the oil presssure switch had to be weded in! in order to get accurate reading
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12 January 2006, 01:24 PM
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P1Doc,
Welded in!? I hope not!? I can't see why, the only reason I could imagine is if the thread didn't seal against the block properly as standard (which it does - these are Defi sensors guys).
Understand the cost argument however even using cheap gauges the price versus amount of information given by the SECS with those 2 additional sensors is still favourable. I was quoted over £900 just for Defi controller, boost, oil temp and pressure gauges & fitting - 3 parts of engine info. My SECs cost about £300 and the two other sensors about £185. I fitted myself so less than £500 quid and I have so much more information about what the engine is doing. Surely the SECs pathway isn't too bad...??
Welded in!? I hope not!? I can't see why, the only reason I could imagine is if the thread didn't seal against the block properly as standard (which it does - these are Defi sensors guys).
Understand the cost argument however even using cheap gauges the price versus amount of information given by the SECS with those 2 additional sensors is still favourable. I was quoted over £900 just for Defi controller, boost, oil temp and pressure gauges & fitting - 3 parts of engine info. My SECs cost about £300 and the two other sensors about £185. I fitted myself so less than £500 quid and I have so much more information about what the engine is doing. Surely the SECs pathway isn't too bad...??
13 January 2006, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ScrappyDoo2
P1Doc,
Welded in!? I hope not!? I can't see why, the only reason I could imagine is if the thread didn't seal against the block properly as standard (which it does - these are Defi sensors guys).
Understand the cost argument however even using cheap gauges the price versus amount of information given by the SECS with those 2 additional sensors is still favourable. I was quoted over £900 just for Defi controller, boost, oil temp and pressure gauges & fitting - 3 parts of engine info. My SECs cost about £300 and the two other sensors about £185. I fitted myself so less than £500 quid and I have so much more information about what the engine is doing. Surely the SECs pathway isn't too bad...??
Welded in!? I hope not!? I can't see why, the only reason I could imagine is if the thread didn't seal against the block properly as standard (which it does - these are Defi sensors guys).
Understand the cost argument however even using cheap gauges the price versus amount of information given by the SECS with those 2 additional sensors is still favourable. I was quoted over £900 just for Defi controller, boost, oil temp and pressure gauges & fitting - 3 parts of engine info. My SECs cost about £300 and the two other sensors about £185. I fitted myself so less than £500 quid and I have so much more information about what the engine is doing. Surely the SECs pathway isn't too bad...??
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16 January 2006, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kjdmk1
Are the Defi ones the only ones you can use?
Has anyone a sollution for this?
(sorry for my bad English writing, but I'm from the Netherlands..)
17 January 2006, 08:06 AM
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