pgudge

Hello all,

Well i've been padding MY99 in now for 2 weeks, and a weekend trip to Scarborough left me with a smile on my face. However all I can say bad about scoobys is that they attract some right w4nk3rs!!!

All I can saw is that Audi owners DONT like being overtaken by scooby owners. The BM's were cool, just crusing, but the Audi just want to be infront. (Well the ones on the way to Scarborough this weekend did).

Anyway, I spent pretty much all my money on getting my MY99 Turbo 2000 AWD. Unmodified. But I want to get some mods on it. I've been told the essential is a Turbo Timer, if i'm correct this is to keep the engine running to drain the turbo after taking key out.

Also I definetly want to go for a dump value, purely because of the sound. And also someone mentions getting a K&N Air Filter.

But is there anything I should do first, apart form save up?

I am supprised there isn't any posts or sticky's with some of your guys knowledge. Something like (budget / starter mods >£1000), (mid mods >£3000) (pro mods >£5000) etc.

I really dont know much about cars, nevermind scoobys, and I aint affriad to admit it. Just some gerneral info on upkeep, and when to get it looked at (mechanics) and how frequent etc.

ITS AMAZING to actually be behind the wheel of a scooby, instead of looking at others being behind the wheel.

Thanks for reading.

paul.

scoobyboy1

iTrader: (16)

Hi and welcome to scooby ownership, your right about scoobys attracting w4nk3rs, the only advice i can give is keep your car locked up at night, recently ive had my front lights and grille stolen from car when parked on the drive, but dont let things like that put you of, everytime i go out in my scoob ill always have a smile on my face and not many cars could do that for the price of a second hand scoob. Also when i 1st got my scoob all i wanted to do was modify it, but ill give you a tip read into everything 1st and the best place to start is Scoobynet. Also regarding the K&N air filter just watch out for your Maf sensor as MY99/00 scoobys, as they dont tend to like air filters, and for performance gains are not really worth it. If you want to start to modify look at your Exhaust system by taking of the CATS from the downpipe and midsection could free upto 30-50bhp and also gives you that loud flat flour burble.

Turbohot

>If you want to start to modify look at your Exhaust system by taking of the CATS from the downpipe and midsection could free upto 30-50bhp and also gives you that loud flat flour burble.

Can you explain it a bit more please? I wanna get this done to my scoob.How do I do it, where do I get it done, how much iz it gonna cost etc.etc?
BTW I live in North Wales.Who would be closest to go to to get that sorted?
thanx in advance

scoobyboy1

iTrader: (16)

CATS are a short word for Catalyst converter, a classic impreza has 2 of these, 1 on the downpipe and 1 on the midsection. the new age i think has 3 cats. Basically the catalyst converters are removed and frees up the exhaust gases. Lots of subaru specialist would be able to do this for you, also if anyone in your area does custom made exhausts, ask them, ive got a Hayward & Scott downpipe and a custom made midsection and backbox, cost me £220 for the downpipe and £300 for the midesection and backbox, you will feel the diffrence in performance and sound.

Also try these http://www.tsl-motorsport.co.uk

Iwan

I thought my old MY99 was a bad enough w@nker magnet, but since i got the P1 it's got far worse. I seem to get vans, cars and even buses deliberately pulling out in front of me and cutting me up on roundabouts. It was never this bad before.

I know they're just jealous though.

NOva2

Well you guys should be grateful you own one....................LOL.


I cant' even get near one to sit in it.....let alone drive one! It's my ultimate dream! LOL

npa4kay

r we talking w4$!3r magnets eh? .....WR1 - the amount of muppets who dunno wot it is and wanna cut u up....or do know and wanna be in front!!!!!

Jiggerypokery

A turbo timer is not essential: Just drive the car gently or at low revs for the last few miles of your journey, alternatively let the engine tick over for at least a minute before switching off.

pgudge

Thanks Jiggerypokery

I was told that you can just leave the car running after a hard journey, which sounds more cost effective than turbo timer.

So what else then? Is there no set route people should take? Or just go for what you want? I would like some sort of performace boost mods but slowly does it, cash being the main concern.

So the removing of the CAT is recomended for a slight performance boost, but I though CATs HAD to be on cars now? Am I wrong.

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AndyC_772

iTrader: (2)

A turbo timer is unnecessary IMHO. The rule is that you need to leave the engine to idle for a couple of minutes (or much longer after a track session) before switching off, in order to let the turbo cool before the oil pump gets switched off. (Leave still oil in a red hot turbo and it turns to black sludge, wrecking the turbo next time it starts up). As long as you remember to sit in the car with the engine idling after a hard run there's no need for a machine to do it for you. Gentle driving is as good as idling, so the only time it's ever usually a problem is when you pull off the motorway straight into a service area.

If you have a few quid left over then I'd advise you bank it for now, just in case of any problems and to give you an idea what you do and don't like about the car. If you're happy with it right now, and there's nothing about it that really bugs you, then keep your cash!

If you're desperate to mod the car - and you've checked the effect it'll have on your insurance - then a few worthwhile tweaks are:

- Powerstation's Bumpsteer mod. Takes about an hour, costs about £130 and has a hugely beneficial effect on turn-in and front end grip.

- Exhaust swap. It's not often mentioned - though I think most people know this anyway - that a full de-cat is illegal and will fail an MOT. It's up to you, of course, but there are benefits to be had by (legally) removing just the centre cat and changing the back box. Prodrive's performance pack does just this, along with reinforced intercooler pipework and a remapped ECU; this pack is well worthwhile but there are cheaper alternatives I'd be more inclined to recommend now your car is (presumably) out of warranty. Try calling Powerstation or TSL.

Other popular upgrades are suspension and brakes, though you're looking at a good £1000 there so I'd not bother for now. The scooby is thirsty, so having a few quid in the bank might not be a bad idea until you get used to your weekly Super Unleaded bill

scoobyboy1

iTrader: (16)

You could remove the cat on the midsection and leave the one on the downpipe, and your car would still pass the M.O.T.

vindaloo

Air filter and and exhaust are best places to start for performance mods. The "Green cotton" or "STi panel" filters are popular replacements and aren't oiled. (oily ones can be problematic).

For the exhaust, easiest would be a cat-less replacement from the downpipe back. That still leaves you will a cat. in the downpipe which should mean you're street legal. Exhausts vary massively in terms of noise or outright NOISE!!! A good start would be a cat-less centre pipe and a replacement backbox. Maybe have a look in the "for sale" sections and the likes of EBAY etc.

J.

chick

Hi Paul, I am in exactly the same position as you m8! Just got my MY99 turbo 4dr (silver) a couple of weeks ago, it's totally standard and in mint condition too, only got 40K on the clock, so am well chuffed with it. I am really pleased with the way that the car drives and handles, don't need to boot the power in mine yet as am still happy with it, I would like a decent back box though, just to make it sound a bit sportier though. I want to get the side skirts and lower rear bumper mouldings colour coded and fit a lower front spoiler too.
I know what you mean about them being w@nk3r magnets, everyone wants to cut you up it is so annoying and dangerous! Am not used to this kind of treatment as I used to drive a rover!!

pgudge

Thanks for all the replies

Removing CAT on midsection, and new backbox: Ok about getting the mid CAT removed, but do I have to go for a new backbox? I like the one thats currently on.

chick, i'm happy too with my scooby, just like to add some low cost effective mods, I hear dump values can be fitted in minutes, even by a non car man. Which sounds good to me.

I had a rover 214 si and never got the attention (no guessing needed really), then went to a Vectra 2.5 V6, that was a beauty. And I can even say now I really do miss it. It was luxury, like sitting in your fav. chair at home, the power was there, the engine wizz from the V6 was there, and the power was certainly there. But ten minutes in the new scooby and I forget about it again But I never really had the w4nk3r attention with the vectra either.

Although I do love it when Mr. Cool pulls up in his supped up Corsa/Punto and tears away from the lights leaving me in the dust. I love giving them the enjoyment of telling their mates they left a scooby standing, chYEAH

Thanks again all. I will certainly take AndyC_772's advise and keep some money locked up for rainy days, i'm pretty much prepared for the petrol guzzling from haing the vectra 2.5 v6. Thanks.

Lastly where is best place to go for check ups and services? I am in South Yorkshire.

Turbohot

Cheers mate

vindaloo

What one is currently on it? If you like it keep it. Two types of de-cat centre section are available. One's with resonator boxes (quieter but more dosh) and straight through pipes (louder and cheaper). £60+ for the pipes or £120+ for the resonated ones, based on Magnex bits quoted to me the other week.

J.

AvalancheS8

Loud, VTA (Vent To Atmosphere) dump valves create no performance inprovement and cause your car to not run the way it is meant to. The Scooby already has a good dump valve fitted but it is a recirculating type, so the air it releases goes back into the inlet which is much quieter but allows the engine management to do it's job properly.

Plenty of people do run VTA dump valves on scoobys without major problems, but just be aware that other than the noise (which you will probably get bored of), it's a downgrade.

RLE

iTrader: (2)

I'm in West Yorkshire and take the car to Jap Innovations for all my work mate. Be careful not to get carried away as I did though. Bloody Visa cards............................