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Old Mar 23, 2025 | 12:29 PM
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2001 wrx pro drive
so this car has been in a shed for 7years and many gremlins. so far found the MAP sensor had 2 pins round the wrong way
broken wire to a injector
now the next one has me stumped
bank 1 sensor 1 heater control circuit low
changed sensor for denso one. still the same , same code even if I unplug it or not

pin 2 has 12v to ground so im assuming that the main relay is working

when I go to live data on my laptop I can only see inso for rear o2 sensor
front ones does not even appear on the list , is this because the ECU cant see it ?
ive ensured the sensor had a good earth . so its not that
how do I test the remaining 3 wires and what am I looking for please
this I think is the last issue I have. ( I hope ). thanks
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Old Mar 23, 2025 | 02:44 PM
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From section: " imp01_sec2_12-2.pdf" of previous manual download link

See attached P0031 DTC.pdf attached
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Old Mar 23, 2025 | 03:32 PM
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thank you. job for tomorrow .
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so had a quick look following your flow chart @Don Clark
pin 4 with engine running and lambda plugged in is 13.14 v
pin 5 is the same

how ever its exactly the same if I unplug the sensor also
and its the same with the old or the new sensor also

looking at the pdf. 4 and 5 are joined together ?


im a little confused here
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Old Mar 23, 2025 | 09:44 PM
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On the A/F sensor, Pins 1(output)&2 (input) are the Heater circuit; Pins 3&4 are the sensor signals.
The heater circuit is controlled by the ECU putting sensor pin1 to earth via ECU pins 4&5 and out through ECU pins to earth as shown on diagram. Same voltage at ECU pins 4&5 whether sensor is plugged in or not "could be" an internal ECU circuity problem although putting 4&5 to battery voltage would switch the heater to off.
Basically to check if the heater is working you need to measure the resistance across sensor pins 1& 2 and also check the current flow when heater is switched on, and whether ECU pins 8&9 have a good earth as per DTC.

Which Denso sensor did you fit?
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I’m not at home. I think it said dox 305. Do you know the correct one ? 2001 wrx produce blob Thanks
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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 08:51 AM
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Denso DOX-0306
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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 10:09 AM
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Just checked. I’ve got the wrong sensor. I’ve got the 0305 one.
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So I’ve just ordered the correct one. Ha ha ha

let’s hope that’s all it is.
makes more sense now tho. The live comes from the relay. And the negs are switched by the ecu. So if the ecu makes continuous to earth then the voltage reading at the ecu should be very low. By it being 12v that means it’s not going to earth at all. Thanks
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Front (A/F) O2 sensor
WRX - 22641AA042 - DOX-0306
Legacy 6cyl - 22641AA032 - DOX-0305
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Originally Posted by Don Clark
Front (A/F) O2 sensor
WRX - 22641AA042 - DOX-0306
Legacy 6cyl - 22641AA032 - DOX-0305

that’s the parts supplier. I gave them the details. They have ordered the correct one and will be here tomorrow. Massive thanks bud
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ok so a few checks today

there is 12v from the relay to pin 2 thats a black wire
then the lambda ( even tho its incorrect ) passes the 12v through the heater element and back down the other black wire to the ecu where is still has 12v

pins 8 / 9 are straight to earth no issue there

what controls the ecu to make it send 8/9 to 4/5 completing the circuit
at the moment this is not happening . but as I said its the wrong lambda . could it be the resistance of the heater element incorrect and the ecu detects this ?
how likely is it that the ecu itself is at fault ? id like to hope it isn't

the ecu in the car appears to of been out as there is writing on it in permanent marker or is this poss its to do with the pro drive

sorry for all the questions mate but if I need to replace the ecu im bu@@ered ad this wont be cheap in any way
thanks
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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 07:06 PM
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AFAIK: "Most" Prodrive Performance Packs were Dealer fitment, so the ECU would be sent to Prodrive for re-flashing and then returned.

As for the "actual" method that the ECU uses to control the Heater circuits, I cannot say as I do not know. It may stay on continuously whilst the engine is running or it may be switched off when the exhaust temp reaches the correct temp.
General Subaru info on O2 Sensors attached.
Why not wait and see the outcome on fitting the new sensor and clearing any codes in the ECU.
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I will do yes. but obviously the more info I can learn the better armed I can be


many thanks
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Old Mar 25, 2025 | 06:43 PM
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UPDATE

EML light is off after fitting correct sensor
YAHOOOOOOOOOOO

a Massive thanks to @Don Clark for his help
1 step nearer
How ever since the correct lambda sensor is installed im back to where I started a massive hesitation issue when I try to rev engine , with out any load on .
with the eml light on it revved up well . mmmmmmmm. never can be easy. ha ha ha
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Old Mar 25, 2025 | 09:49 PM
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Having read through your other threads the REAR O2 sensor (p/n 22690501) is in fact the DOX-0357

Given it's 7 year hiatus may be worth investigating the following, if you haven't already covered them.
Did you clean the air intake temp sensor on the side the maf?
May be worth cleaning out the IACV and replacing it's gasket. (may be sticking)

A few part numbers:
Item 6 - purge control solenoid valve




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