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Old 09 January 2015, 11:03 AM
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Default TD05 16g fake or genuine?

As above really, just want to see if you guys can spot anything funny about the 16g I bought. Just rather be safe than sorry











Old 09 January 2015, 11:49 AM
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where did you get it and how much was it?
Old 09 January 2015, 12:02 PM
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Ebay purchase, winning bid at £175. Spoke to the seller, was quite a subaru enthusiast said he was selling due to being sold a VF turbo for peanuts and didn't want to pass on it
Old 09 January 2015, 01:20 PM
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couldnt tell you for sure if its not real but it doesnt look original to me, that doesnt mean it will instantly break tho ive heard of some good copys working really well. This is what mine looks like:
Old 09 January 2015, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by kirky1
couldnt tell you for sure if its not real but it doesnt look original to me, that doesnt mean it will instantly break tho ive heard of some good copys working really well. This is what mine looks like:
what is the worst case scenario if it isn't genuine??

How much you want for yours
Old 09 January 2015, 02:03 PM
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Hi there

Looks like its fake,if you want to be sure,get this turbo at least balanced and check'd if its OK

Usually those turbo have bad seals and they're not properly balanced to allowed tolerance and still I would check if wastegate flap will close properly etc

Hope this help

Thanks,Jura
Old 09 January 2015, 02:26 PM
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ebay copy by the looks of it

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbocharger-DSM-EVOIII-Type-TD05-/280748245184?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item415de640c0&vxp=mtr
Old 09 January 2015, 04:36 PM
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better safe than sorry???? you have allready bought it if its a rubbish fake youve lost your money
if u fit it and it ****s itself youve lost your money and youre engine

better safe than sorry is asking before you buy something sorry if this sounds harsh but there is no such thing as a good cheap turbo
Old 09 January 2015, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by p1junkie
better safe than sorry???? you have allready bought it if its a rubbish fake youve lost your money
if u fit it and it ****s itself youve lost your money and youre engine

better safe than sorry is asking before you buy something sorry if this sounds harsh but there is no such thing as a good cheap turbo
Yea thanks for that, much appreciated input.

Turbo isn't being fitted, been safe and asked opinions...so I've lost a little bit of money...better than losing my engine
Old 09 January 2015, 05:07 PM
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Exclamation TD05 how to spot a fake?

This is a double thread Jura answered another one earlier
TD05 how to spot a fake?

However ,

The TD05 turbo 16g ( S/H ) is now hard to obtain as you need to find someone taking it off / breaking an older car. Basically anything that looks new and is less than 500 pounds is a fake. However , fake is not just fake the problems are many and Jura has mentioned some but the balance of the shaft is critical .

My fake came with a graphed / protocoled vibration test is also from China, and yours looks very similar to mine.

For kicks I asked a Chinese colleague of mine to read the "certificate" he said to me the Chinese writing says "This is to certify that this Turbo xxxx will fit to a Japanese car. and was manufactured origin PRC Shanghai" and has been packed by t.wong ". I was sold this as a TD05 B 16G now I m not so sure that it is.

However I think what you have to consider here is you will not get anything new for less than you just paid. I do business with our factory in Shanghai all the time Logistics for sourcing of spares on suface mount printing machines. I used to be a quality manager for Tyco electronics , i can tell you most of the European car manufacturers do now source parts in PRC . The main problem is the Chinese appreciation of quality control.

So when you buy something you have to take a close look at it before you fit it. In my case I took emery paper to the rough lip infront of the blade (see photo) to smooth it out ,I did a bit of work on the gate which was not closing properly (like jura mentioned ) I have also had to throw off the WGA as its a standard TD04 item that's not matched for a TD05 turbo to run boost >20 psi as it starts to open at 5-6 psi , hence why I posted yesterday the link to COBB site showing checks needed to test it to see when it opens before you fit it .

You may also find that the water feed pipes will not fit under the housing on top of the manifold , I modified my TD04 pipes to fit the TD05 , by boring out the unions (which are smaller than the TD05 and filing them down flat. ) But finally it did work and it is capable of good power.

Would I advise others to go through all the re-enginering , absolutely not. But Im on a tight budget. So its Hobsons choice for me .
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Old 09 January 2015, 05:11 PM
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Old 09 January 2015, 05:19 PM
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To be brutally honest I'm jacking the idea of turbo and injector upgrade to focus on the brakes. I have everything I need to go to around 280bhp which for now is enough for me
Old 09 January 2015, 05:38 PM
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That's wise , absolutely nothing wrong with doing brakes and suspension first.
Old 09 January 2015, 05:48 PM
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The casting looks pretty poor, deffo a copy.
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