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Old 07 January 2015, 10:14 AM
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as above lads picking up my new car on the 20th its 1997 subaru impreza 1.5 fwd coupe i was gonna keep the 1.5 in it as would be a cheap car to run but now decided to go down the 2.0 turbo engine route so what are my options regarding engine cheers
Old 07 January 2015, 10:30 AM
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for the costs involved you'd be better just buying a type r
Old 07 January 2015, 10:35 AM
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As above, ive done a non subaru engine conversion and it is alot of work,

you would be looking at doing all the plumbing, wiring driveshafts + turbo plumbing, doable but ask yourself a question do you really want to do it all... and once its all in you turn a key and nothing happens and then oyu start fiddling process of trying to figure out why its not starting...
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your proberly right there mate but finding a clean looked after type r out here is not easy and decent ones are hard found which is why i wanna do the work to mine i know there alot of work and £££ but i think it will be worth it in the end
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Originally Posted by Filski
As above, ive done a non subaru engine conversion and it is alot of work,

you would be looking at doing all the plumbing, wiring driveshafts + turbo plumbing, doable but ask yourself a question do you really want to do it all... and once its all in you turn a key and nothing happens and then oyu start fiddling process of trying to figure out why its not starting...
what did u do the conversion on mate was it that much of an headache
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Oh my conversion is still ongoing Its my hobby/ money pit project . I've stuck a 1.8 vtec lumnp into a mini. hoping to finish it this year Head ache is not a right word in my case i think a variety of swear words would be more appropriate! 1st was getting the thing to fit and now im at the stage of getting it to run manage to eliminate it down to not having a live feed to a fuel pump.

excuse the mess and tattyness as its not pretty, i have not cleaned or painted teh engine or the gearbox as priority to get it going then detailing painted



with front end on



But again, i cannot imagine a subaru engine conversion being any different/ easier just keep in mind alot of work would be needed, but on upside you will learn loads!
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looks like you got your hands full there mate
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Not worth the time or hassle. Insurance will be much higher then a normal turbo car and nobody will ever buy it afterwards.

It's not just an engine change. You will need the entire engine, all hoses, sensors, wiring looms (not just the engine one but every wire through the entire car as the looms are not interchangeable) the ecu, all fuses, fuses boxes, relays, alarm and imobilisor system, entire exhaust system, different front subframe, different fuel tank, pump and senders, gearbox, drive train, possibly drive shafts, hubs, hubs backing plates and handbrake mechanism plus cables, suspension components, arb's and rear mounts, brakes including all the brake lines front to back and the ABS system the list is endless.

Then if the model years are different your dash and switch and speedo etc won't work with the loom you have put in. Then different dashes don't fit different model years due to different mounting points.

Entire car basically. So the only way to do it sensibly is to take it all from one working donor car. But then.... why not just keep the donor car?

Then if you buy all this seperate you won't be able to tell if you are missing a bit. And you have the issue of people selling things for say a 97 and then you finding out when it doesn't work that it was for a 95.

Then you have to assume all the second hand bits are working. Otherwise when you try to start it and it doesn't work you have to check EVERYTHING.

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so really then im better off starting with a donar car if im to do the conversion i know its alot of work mate and will be a massive ball ache but want to do it ive no plans of selling car even if i dont do the swap
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Yes mate, only sensible way to do it is to park a working turbo car next to your project and swap it all over bit by bit. Then you don't have to worry about sourcing working and compatible parts which is a big headache.
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arn't these fwd? so you'll need all the running gear etc as well?

http://www.tradecarview.com.edgekey....impreza_retna/
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lukee_scooby if you ever want to sell that coupe PM me , i would be interested , thanks
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Originally Posted by FMJ
Yes mate, only sensible way to do it is to park a working turbo car next to your project and swap it all over bit by bit. Then you don't have to worry about sourcing working and compatible parts which is a big headache.
sounds like plan
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
arn't these fwd? so you'll need all the running gear etc as well?

http://www.tradecarview.com.edgekey....impreza_retna/
yeah its a fwd mate
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Originally Posted by bigsigh
lukee_scooby if you ever want to sell that coupe PM me , i would be interested , thanks
dont plan to mate if i dont do the swap will keep it 1.5 and save for a type r
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just buy a wrx or turbo 2000 and transplant everything, transplanting a 4 door loom may be tricky when it comes to, well the doors.
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Originally Posted by riiidaa
just buy a wrx or turbo 2000 and transplant everything, transplanting a 4 door loom may be tricky when it comes to, well the doors.
does not have to be a 97 impreza engine that goes into it
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Originally Posted by lukee_scooby
does not have to be a 97 impreza engine that goes into it
No , you would be transfering everything to the coupe shell so wouldn't matter wht year it was , basically strip the coupe to the total bare shell and put everything from the donor into it , the coupe loom wouldn't have any of the wiring needed to run te turbo engine so no matter what year donor car you get everything will need moved across
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Originally Posted by bigsigh
No , you would be transfering everything to the coupe shell so wouldn't matter wht year it was , basically strip the coupe to the total bare shell and put everything from the donor into it , the coupe loom wouldn't have any of the wiring needed to run te turbo engine so no matter what year donor car you get everything will need moved across
now to find a donor car then
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Originally Posted by lukee_scooby
now to find a donor car then
depending on how you want to procede wil very much depend on if its worth it or not. Normal coupe has short ratio gearbox, upraited rear diff etc etc etc

finding a wrecked one will be very difficult and the partsw you want fetch good money so wont be cheap.

cheapest option will def just buy a type R
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
depending on how you want to procede wil very much depend on if its worth it or not. Normal coupe has short ratio gearbox, upraited rear diff etc etc etc

finding a wrecked one will be very difficult and the partsw you want fetch good money so wont be cheap.

cheapest option will def just buy a type R
the plan was to get say a 97 sti and transfer everything over now silly question the donor car being a 4 door would diff shafts prop etc fit into the 2 door shell
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Yes if you have the subframes etc from the donor car you can transfer the complete running gear across
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Originally Posted by bigsigh
Yes if you have the subframes etc from the donor car you can transfer the complete running gear across
cheers for info dude
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you should get in touch with jap performance parts , they have plenty accident damaged cars, but it might make more sense to repair the damage

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