ossett2k2

iTrader: (9)

Yes I map my own.

Rick2017

is it hard to do.what did you pay for your daughter board software and cable

ossett2k2

iTrader: (9)

ESL is defiantly user friendly.
"Hard" is subjective,it's defiantly satisfying to know you can tune your own motor.
If you're thinking of the DIY route then read the ESL user manual(several times),do plenty of logging,make small changes and take your time.
Cost was around 500 for everything but I think prices have gone up since(3 years ago).
BIG plus is when I've added parts like 3 port bcs,induction kit etc I don't have to pay silly money for map tweaks

Rick2017

I'm sorely tempted to buy and do it my self.are you running maffless? And how do you turn the immobilizer off ?

ossett2k2

iTrader: (9)

Immobiliser is gone when esl is fitted,afaik! I've only had esl on my jdm cars.
I'm running mafless.
You will also need a wideband afr gauge/sensor and some detcans.

Rick2017

HI so as soon as you plug the daughter board in it switches the immobilizer off straight away.? was it hard to convert to maffless ? When you say det cans is that the head phones measuring knock

ossett2k2

iTrader: (9)

There are a few members using esl and diy mapping,I'm sure Ben Harris and piehole are running a uk cars,give them a shout or
Ring esl/drop them an email to make sure it will bypass the immobiliser,I'm pretty sure it does.
It's not difficult to switch to mafless,closed loop fueling take a little more work.
Yes detcans are used to detect knock.

Rick2017

I've emailed esl this evening. To switch to maffless I no there is wiring involved. I don't have to mess with the fuel tables do I.

ossett2k2

iTrader: (9)

Yes some wiring and a resistor to fit IF you want to run an IAT sensor.
Of corse you will need to adjust fuel tables,along with adjusting the rest of the map.
Have you had a read of the manual?
My mapping journey is a long(ish) story,but in short,my 1st ran maf....(car got nicked) 2nd/present car running mafless,remapped by a 'pro' but ran a very poor/unsafe map so decided to diy map after I rebuilt the engine

Rick2017

I can see why you mapped the car your self. A crap mapper isn't going to help things.i haven't read the manual I thought it was only available when the software was bought. I didn't no a resistor had to be fitted either. I was kinda hoping of some sort of help and guidance with esl from yourself and pie hole and other members

ossett2k2

iTrader: (9)

http://www.enduringsolutions.com/cat...cal-documents/

Have a read and see what you think
There are quiet a few members on here who have always been helpful including some proper pro mappers,I just play but play safe,every time I have a tweak I push it a bit more.
Very happy with how it runs so not touched it for months,until this week when I fitted the 3 port bcs so the fun started again

Rick2017

it's not an easy job is it.alot of resistors to remove on install isn't there.i have a spare 8s ecu I can see my self asking for help

ossett2k2

iTrader: (9)

Lol I cheated when I bought mine,just sent my ecu to Andy at esl and he fitted the board for iirc £10.
if you're handy with a soldering iron it shouldn't be too much bother.

Rick2017

Rick2017

And I thought I was struggling

Rick2017

The bit I carnt get my head round is in the picture it says short jumper 900 in what way do I do that

ossett2k2

iTrader: (9)

To short a jumper you touch the 2 pins together.
I was A.Lazy B.didnt have a soldering iron and C.have fat circuit board breaking fingers!

Rick2017

so just touch to pins together. If the ecu was live wouldn't it do damage

ossett2k2

iTrader: (9)

I'm sure a fair few members have fitted their own,maybe do a new thread and ask the question.
Like I say,I got a package deal and wanted motorsports pack adding plus electronic kind of scare me haha,for these reasons I sent my ecu to esl on the Tuesday and it was back to me by Thursday where it was just plug&play

Rick2017

sounds good .What injectors are you on at the minute

ossett2k2

iTrader: (9)

deatschwerks 740cc

Rick2017

wow. Is yours a uk2000

ossett2k2

iTrader: (9)

No it's a v3sti with a bigger turbo.

Rick2017

I think I need pictures of this car .750cc injectors has scope for 4-500 bhp hasn't it

ossett2k2

iTrader: (9)

Yes the turbo is 420+ rated.
I will get it on the dyno at some point but numbers don't bother me tbh,just love the way it drives.

Rick2017

same. I just want a nice clean pull and ditch the immobilizer and the stupid maf

ossett2k2

iTrader: (9)

pretty much the best money I spent on a car is esl
Eventually want to run a tablet permanent,got so much more stuff to do 1st tho so that's on a back burner.
This is just rigged up on a temporary mounting...

Rick2017

nice

Rick2017

I could short the jumper by bridging the two pins with solder couldn't I

drischnie

iTrader: (5)

i know that if you put an JDM V3/4 ECU into a 97/98 UK Car, you have to change the pins for crank- and camshaft sensor and fuel pump, cause of the immobilizer in the european cars...
does i have to do this too if an ESL board is installed in the JDM ECU that i want to install in an UK car? so for example: 6S STi V3 ECU with ESL daughterboard installed into an 98 UK car (8S ECU) .... does it start with the right map or does i have to resolder known the pins?