SCOSaltire

Hi all.

I have a MY99 Uk Turbo.
I had the Prodive Performance package fitted last year.

For reasons I wont go into, i need to find out how to identify the MY99 PPP ecu asap.

Does anyone know how to do this?

I need to find out if it is the MY99 Prodrive ecu, and not a different year Prodrive ecu, or indeed a non-prodrive ecu.

Cheers

john banks

The MY99/00 Prodrive ECU has a Pink STi badge with no Prodrive markings on it. Other years I think would not work as the 99/00 is the one with the Phase II engine. Mine was fitted last autumn to a MY00, but they would have fitted the same if you took a MY99 along. Typically it should hold 16-17 PSI which the standard ECU would not be able to do unless it had fuel cut fiddle with or there was some sort of change to the boost control. I gather the ECU may also report itself to the select monitor with an ID but not certain. The std MY99 ECU has a black or brown label with code AE800 or AE801 or thereabouts. MY00 std ECU is green label AE802 and crap.

Email offline if you prefer jcsbanks@btinternet.com

[Edited by john banks - 3/6/2002 10:40:11 PM]

SCOSaltire

same ecu for my99/00? that surprised me
i dont have boost guage .... would be useful if i did just now.

is it possible to fit the wrong ecu to my my99 car easily?
i know it has been done to others... thats my concern... and i need to rule it out.

ive emailed u john, cheers.

AlanG

Is there any way you can tell the different ECU's without relying on the cover?

Wouldn't like to be ripped by someone fitting a black A800 cover on to a green A802 ECU

john banks

ID code to select monitor?

dowser

John - not sure that's a relevant way of checking anymore, lol!

Richard

T-uk

by finding the boost cut on your standard ECU then fitting PPP ECU and seeing if it cuts a few psi higher,crude but should work.

come on sco,tell us the gory details.whats happened?

SCOSaltire

well
ive had probs with car
i was never blown away with the ppp... didnt seem like that much of a difference... the noise was... but thought id feel more of a kick..
anyways.. had problems with misfiring...
garage found one thing wrong... fixed that broken bit.. but its still doing the stutter... sometimes more so than before, other times more smooth... tho car feels it has less pull now.

then was told that they have had people what they have fitted the ppp to... found the performance wasnt that great... then found it was the wrong 'box' fitted...

also... when i mentioned the stuttering... was asked if it was happening when cold...
it was doing it there too .. but the stuttering i was concerned with was when fully operational (captain) so said no to concentrate their minds on the task.. and not be told that its common...
was replied with garage remembering it was a prodrive car ive got... as if the ppped cars dont stutter when cold... but mine does... did it b4 the ppp and since

so... with history of fitting the wrong boxes to cars, me not being that impressed with the performance (got it fitted 8 months ago, but thought nothing of it as never thought the wrong box would have been fitted - i bought a product), and the problem now and implied ppp cars not stuttering when cold (at 2-3k rpm, which i stay away from mostly until warm)... makes me think that perhaps i have the wrong box fitted...

so finding out which ecu i do have will confirm / rule that out.

thought about phoning prodrive... to find out how to tell the difference... but dont know if they deal with customers direct...

so posted here... thought someone may know...

dunno if its gory..
but its annoying, frustrating, makes me angry, disappointed and suprised.

of course.. i may have the right ecu.. and the problem may be something else...

anyone of any way to interrogate the chips and find out their persuasion?

john has kindly offered to help me... any one give any information that could help identify the boards?

or any prodrive guys reading that would tell me how to proceed..?

john banks

LOL Richard. That will be the MY01 "PPP" you are referring to then? Spot that by Select Monitor reading 10 PSI equivalent when the boost gauge is showing 17

john banks

We need to see what boost you are running. I can put a DVM on the MAP sensor if you don't have a gauge. You can also see what mine is like PPP + a few nips and tucks.

dowser

John...hadn't even thought of that - but true! I was thinking more along the lines of re-writing said ID Code via Steve's reprogramming interface

Richard

SCOSaltire

aye ... will be good to do all that...
how do u measure boost with a dvm?

doesnt the car need to be moving - have load - to tell boost level?
or is map sensor in the car? - can u tell i dunno where it is?

will be good to compare to ur car...

john banks

Do you have a downpipe?

You can connect the DVM at the ECU and measure the boost or run a wire from the sensor on the offside suspension tower.

SCOSaltire

just the standard dp...

SCOSaltire

have correct ecu
yay!

cheers john banks!

SCOSaltire

for new soundcard

went roung to see dave yesterday ... had car on select monitor

there was an error code for maf sensor failure in the history
cleared it
voltage is varying on maf sensor..

when car was stuttering... ignition timing was being changed (think retarded)

john banks

I have posted in your other thread. Dealer's fault - they fitted Ramair and shouldn't have done. If they get stroppy complain to IM. I'm sure they would rather just sort it as a warranty job than be caught with their pants down by fitting the wrong filters.

john banks

It makes the correct boost for a PPP at up to 16.8 peak. 16.3 PSI held - typically was 16.5 peak, 16 held, and when it doesn't hesitate seems about right for performance from what I remember of unmodded PPP.

When it hesitates the boost is not the culprit - stays steady. I presume it could be ignition timing - need to see it hesitating on select monitor.

Then sort out a decat and Dawes and you will be able to scare yourself like I scared you yesterday

(BTW new soundcard bought, noise only present when ADSL plugged in - problem fixed)

[Edited by john banks - 3/10/2002 11:45:30 AM]