Oh Dear what have I done !!
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Oh Dear what have I done !!
This afternoon coming on to A21 at North Farm Ind and exited the big roundabout at full chat, changed into 3rd and this was quickly followed by a loudish bang it came from the front of the car and clutch pedal stayed on the floor and I lost all drive. Coasted to a stop and I could hear a loud rattle coming from clutch area. Gear selection is fine and feels no different, no fuilds leaking and the engine is OK.
Do people think it could be anything other than the clutch going bang? may be the release bearing ???
I've been using an AP organic so I'm a bit disappointed if this is the case.
I will need to replace it with some more suited to handling high outputs, any recommendations which won't cost an arm and a leg? Exedy cermetallic racing clutch, ACT Racing Clutch, Clutch Masters Stage 4.
For those of you who don't know my car I have been sprinting it on a regular basis so it needs to take some abuse but also be driveable.
Mark A
PS big thank you to Jon B for towing me home with his 4 foot tow rope
Do people think it could be anything other than the clutch going bang? may be the release bearing ???
I've been using an AP organic so I'm a bit disappointed if this is the case.
I will need to replace it with some more suited to handling high outputs, any recommendations which won't cost an arm and a leg? Exedy cermetallic racing clutch, ACT Racing Clutch, Clutch Masters Stage 4.
For those of you who don't know my car I have been sprinting it on a regular basis so it needs to take some abuse but also be driveable.
Mark A
PS big thank you to Jon B for towing me home with his 4 foot tow rope
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Beat me too it P20, sounds about right to me too.
How much power are you putting through the AP organic? Been thinking about a new clutch for mine soon, just waiting for it to start slipping since the remap.
Dan.
How much power are you putting through the AP organic? Been thinking about a new clutch for mine soon, just waiting for it to start slipping since the remap.
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Do you think you could get away with changing the clutch plate and release bearing only if that has happened?
I appreciate it's hard to give advice when I can't say 100% whats happened, it's just bad timing with Christmas just round the corner.
Just looked on the AP website and they now sell a 6 puck sprung drive plate, anybody tried this?
Mark A
I appreciate it's hard to give advice when I can't say 100% whats happened, it's just bad timing with Christmas just round the corner.
Just looked on the AP website and they now sell a 6 puck sprung drive plate, anybody tried this?
Mark A
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Mark:
I had a 4 puck ceramic with a sprung centre in my 911.
It makes the clutch tolerable on the road, but the take-up of the paddle type is still 'abrupt' so nose to tail traffic is a real bind.
I used to leave the hill climb at Loton Park in Shrewsbury on a Bank Holiday Monday and the traffic was really bad, but survived that with just my leg feeling dead!
You could contact Super Clutch (Tony Dewson) as Tony knows hill climbing and road clutches well and I think they might have something for the Impreza now, possibly Exeedy. He used to work for AP 10 years ago.
Time to get out and under....
911.
I had a 4 puck ceramic with a sprung centre in my 911.
It makes the clutch tolerable on the road, but the take-up of the paddle type is still 'abrupt' so nose to tail traffic is a real bind.
I used to leave the hill climb at Loton Park in Shrewsbury on a Bank Holiday Monday and the traffic was really bad, but survived that with just my leg feeling dead!
You could contact Super Clutch (Tony Dewson) as Tony knows hill climbing and road clutches well and I think they might have something for the Impreza now, possibly Exeedy. He used to work for AP 10 years ago.
Time to get out and under....
911.
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Jon about 2 1/2 years, but it's only done 5k miles since fitting. I will give them a call, they might offer a discount on a new one.
Graham, thanks for the reminder. I'm gonna have to use a friend's barn I think. I can't face working on the street in this weather.
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Graham, thanks for the reminder. I'm gonna have to use a friend's barn I think. I can't face working on the street in this weather.
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I have heard that the exedy and OS Giken are superb. Went in a car with 400+bhp and torque on Saturday, and that had the OSG in it, and it felt (as a passenger) as though it coped well with the (extreme) abuse that was being thrown at it.
It convinced me thats the one i am going for.
It convinced me thats the one i am going for.
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PS big thank you to Jon B for towing me home with his 4 foot tow rope
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The theory is; the closer you are to an object the lesser the impact- think about it !! 30 mph with a 4 ft gap - moderate hit - 10 ft gap - big hit. 2 inch gap - no hit at all. So I advocate 2 inch tow ropes - 4 foot is for wusses.
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PS big thank you to Jon B for towing me home with his 4 foot tow rope
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The theory is; the closer you are to an object the lesser the impact- think about it !! 30 mph with a 4 ft gap - moderate hit - 10 ft gap - big hit. 2 inch gap - no hit at all. So I advocate 2 inch tow ropes - 4 foot is for wusses.
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Yeah right David, if only I'd had my pen knife I would have shortened it, Jon was not to happy about cutting up his only tow rope.
Must speak with you David about a 6 speed soon. If the gearbox is coming out for the clutch then I might aswell swop them. I plan to do this in the middle of January. Do the 6 speeds come with a flywheel ?
Spoke with AP today, they want the clutch back to have a look if it has disintergrated, and might be able to sort something out due to the fact it's only covered about 5k. They also suggest that it may be the release bearing thats gone and not the drive plate.
Either way I need to spend some time getting dirty
Mark A
Must speak with you David about a 6 speed soon. If the gearbox is coming out for the clutch then I might aswell swop them. I plan to do this in the middle of January. Do the 6 speeds come with a flywheel ?
Spoke with AP today, they want the clutch back to have a look if it has disintergrated, and might be able to sort something out due to the fact it's only covered about 5k. They also suggest that it may be the release bearing thats gone and not the drive plate.
Either way I need to spend some time getting dirty
Mark A
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Yeah right David, if only I'd had my pen knife I would have shortened it, Jon was not to happy about cutting up his only tow rope.
Must speak with you David about a 6 speed soon. If the gearbox is coming out for the clutch then I might aswell swop them. I plan to do this in the middle of January. Do the 6 speeds come with a flywheel ?
Spoke with AP today, they want the clutch back to have a look if it has disintergrated, and might be able to sort something out due to the fact it's only covered about 5k. They also suggest that it may be the release bearing thats gone and not the drive plate.
Either way I need to spend some time getting dirty Mark A
Must speak with you David about a 6 speed soon. If the gearbox is coming out for the clutch then I might aswell swop them. I plan to do this in the middle of January. Do the 6 speeds come with a flywheel ?
Spoke with AP today, they want the clutch back to have a look if it has disintergrated, and might be able to sort something out due to the fact it's only covered about 5k. They also suggest that it may be the release bearing thats gone and not the drive plate.
Either way I need to spend some time getting dirty Mark A
Let me know your master plan and we can get you sorted. There really doesn't seem to be any point in doing the job for a 5 speed to do it all again with the 6 speed a few weeks later.
Your original flywheel is all you need - unless of course it's stuffed, OR if you are going to go ceremetallic clutch then you'll need a billet steel flywheel version as cast ones get ripped to bits in about 30 yards - sometimes 15 yards.......... To answer your question; no our gearboxes don't come with flywheels.
David API
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Mark: Sorry for the delay, Super clutch details are
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Postman tried to deliver me a package today, must be the Boost valve as expecting no more bits, so thanks, ps you havn't cashed the cheque yet!!
911
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Postman tried to deliver me a package today, must be the Boost valve as expecting no more bits, so thanks, ps you havn't cashed the cheque yet!!
911
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Originally Posted by 911
Mark: Sorry for the delay, Super clutch details are
01926 812136
Postman tried to deliver me a package today, must be the Boost valve as expecting no more bits, so thanks, ps you havn't cashed the cheque yet!!
911
01926 812136
Postman tried to deliver me a package today, must be the Boost valve as expecting no more bits, so thanks, ps you havn't cashed the cheque yet!!
911
I rang super clutch, £992 exe vat for twin plate clutch
AP seem interested in the state of my organic clutch so they might take pity and sort out a new drive plate (6 puck sprung paddle is what I'd want now, as the covers are no different).
Mark A
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Could it be that the centre bearing (or whatever its called ie the thrust bearing) has slipped out of the clutch?
I know of one person who came to me for a gearbox after having a similar incident,and after removing the box found that the release bearing had slipped,or the circlip had come away.
might not need a clutch plate,although you would have the same amount of labour in both...
I know of one person who came to me for a gearbox after having a similar incident,and after removing the box found that the release bearing had slipped,or the circlip had come away.
might not need a clutch plate,although you would have the same amount of labour in both...
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That's a good point, this happened to Carman's RA. Only the ring had popped out. Once back in, no probs (he had a paddle/sprung centre too)
Might as well put a paddle in there.
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Might as well put a paddle in there.
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Wouldnt that make the clutch perdal very light, infact have no return once depressed? Also wouldnt it make the selection of gears, whilst stationery almost impossible with the engine running?
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Cheers for the words of encouragement lads, I hope it is something simple.
Nathan, fortunately he used the espace. I'll be buying him a longer tow rope for Christmas.
I will be doing this myself unless Santa's little helpers turn up after the Christmas period.
Mark A
Nathan, fortunately he used the espace. I'll be buying him a longer tow rope for Christmas.
I will be doing this myself unless Santa's little helpers turn up after the Christmas period.
Mark A
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