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Old 14 December 2003, 10:49 AM
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just been diagnosed at scooby clinic, looks like, crank, rods etc. etc. in other words fcuked




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Old 14 December 2003, 09:47 PM
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Its not the timing belt tensioner? I'm trying to think of the non terminal stuff here.

Is it the big ends? Sorry to have to ask.
Old 15 December 2003, 09:15 AM
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Subaru mechanic just told me that my timing belt tensioner needs replacing along with one "unbalanced" main pulley(??? due to bad tensioner may be? Personal opinion...).
I have some slight rattling / knocking engine noise from my 8 months old WRX03 the first few minutes on idle that dissapears when warm or high revs and believe me I am glad it isn't something more serious as piston slap etc but we'll see when the parts are here for sure...
JIM

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Old 15 December 2003, 10:35 AM
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Jim,

In interested in the result, please post back here.

thx

simon

PS my knock seems to come from the nearside rear of the engine (no pulleys there i think)
Old 15 December 2003, 11:05 AM
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Sheet!!

Expensive to repair?
Old 15 December 2003, 01:04 PM
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The belt tensioner can sound very "metallicky knock" from cold start, often virtually dissappearing when warm or high revs, so make sure not mistaken for crank knock.
The tensioner sits on the nearside of the timing cover, so you can always check to see if the noise does seem "louder" at this point. will help with simple location diagnosis.
if the noise seems more "central" to the engine, well, sorry, it does sound more like crankshaft.

Incidentally, crankshaft pullies only "normally £ fail if the centre rubber dampers has split,otherwise no problems encountered.
Old 16 December 2003, 09:34 AM
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...Incidentally, crankshaft pullies only "normally £ fail if the centre rubber dampers has split,otherwise no problems encountered
Could you be more specific?
I visited another Subaru service just for diagnosis and they told me that ALL crankshaft pulleys (visible external) have a slight movement as mine (they have rubber inside), what to believe now?
And where are the rubber dambers inside pulley?
JIM
Old 16 December 2003, 09:40 AM
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SCOOBYSLUT - Is this noise something like a "tic tic tic", high pitched, only on cold start? That's something I have from a long time ago, but no subaru dealer mentioned about it when I took the car for regular service...

This worries me, as I went through bad experiences with the timing belt with the ECOTEC Opel tigra engine...
Old 16 December 2003, 06:42 PM
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thought I had allready diagnosed this over the phone..

Sounded like rods / crank..

with no oil / holes then more likely to be the crank.

David
Old 16 December 2003, 10:33 PM
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David_Wallis, yes mate is was the crank may need a new short engine
Old 16 December 2003, 10:47 PM
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Old 17 December 2003, 12:31 AM
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Good excuse for a 2.5l ??
Old 17 December 2003, 01:07 PM
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Peccy, sorry to hear that mate. If you dont mind me asking what state of tune was the car in, milage, what fuel used etc

Cheers, one paranoid subaru owner.
Old 17 December 2003, 05:51 PM
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Yep Peccy, be good to know, i'm in the same boat as Triple X.
Hope you get it sorted soon at minimal cost aswell mate.

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Old 17 December 2003, 06:19 PM
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Triple X, bog standard car (apart from back box), always run on Optimax - well the 800 miles i did in it in this country before it went pop, And was being driven carefully as was booked in for a full service and cambelt change this week.

things are looking up though, place i got it from have been very understanding and reasonable about the matter and come to a satisfactory arrangement.
Old 17 December 2003, 06:58 PM
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shame really
i bet you kinda wished you had kept the uk turbo tho and played with it a bit more?
Old 18 December 2003, 09:54 AM
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StickyMicky, nah, the 6 T R made my 280bhp uk turbo seems like a Sport
Old 18 December 2003, 10:27 PM
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fair enough
didnt my wrx make your uk t look like a sport as well

hope its fixed up for you soon
Old 18 December 2003, 10:50 PM
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ill be gettin my own back
Old 30 December 2003, 01:37 PM
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...Jim,
In interested in the result, please post back here.
thx

simon

PS my knock seems to come from the nearside rear of the engine (no pulleys there i think)...
Just to let you know that after the timing belt tensioner and crankshaft pulley change the tapping noise of ny car have dissapeared (hope it's not related with oil change as the same time I had a full service, on the other hand this noise was there from first 200-300 miles). And yes the crankshaft pulley has some movement inside the rubber part of it!
JIM
Old 31 December 2003, 06:24 PM
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Peccy, was your car from miguel?
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