BuRR

...coming soon, watch the local press.

Recovering data and reporting the same, assisting in prosecuting offenders involved in hi-tech crime.....

Just thought someone may be interested

darlodge

I'd apply if I were not way down south. I'll put my nerd hat on but I think Computer forensics is really interesting, I do however imagine there are a lot of unpleasant things.

Darren

Mr.Manchester

Interested, Can you PM me anymore details?

TopBanana

Sounds like interesting work

_Meridian_

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Actually this is what they really do all day...


M

BuRR

I honestly don't have any more details. All I can say is watch the press and the vacancies on the West Yorkshire Police website

Dazza's-STi

err you probably wouldn't as the pay wouldn't be too hot although i could be wrong... although if its around 60k then i might be interested as i live about about 1/2 a mile away from HQ and its better than sitting in a hotel room in Harlow like i am right now

ru'

darlodge

60k you havin' a laugh? I'd give a left nut to be on that per year

Darren

Chris L

Like you wouldn't (or would want to) imagine

My previous and current firms are both involved with computer forensics. We did many investigations for police forces that (I'm glad to say) resulted in successful prosecutions. There are very strict rules on how and who can view them, but viewed they must be, as every image has to be categorised and assigned a rating for use in court A very grim task.

Thankfully it's not that common. There is also a lot of work around industrial espionage and disputes. As you say, a very interesting field of work.

I would imagine that the local police forces are now heavily involved with CEOP - those boys have some serious heavy weight industry backing and access to some very talented forensics guys. They also have a caged secure PC which contains all the dodgy child related images ever found on the Internet - there are currently millions

darlodge

Thanks Chris,

Why exactly do they still keep the images? After a prosecution I can't imagine they are any use?

Darren

BuRR

Hash values, to compare against files in new cases. Saves the examiner having to view the same images over and over

Chris L

Yep - as BuRR says. Although there are a lot of dodgy images around, the nature of child **** is that it tends to be carried out by a (thankfully) relatively small number of highly organised gangs (certainly at a country level) - the investigations of this nature often go right around the world, so it is possible to track back to the original gangs by looking at the images that are being distributed - it's not like standard adult **** which has an almost limitless amount of images, with thousands of new ones being added every day.

J4CKO

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Sounds interesting, do you need forensics and data recovery experience ?

Have done ten years in standard Police IT.

BuRR

The jobs have just gone live.....

West Yorkshire Police: Police Staff Vacancies

"Digital Evidence Forensic Recovery Officer"

Best thing is.... you'll get to work with me

David_Wallis

And thats a good thing how?

Wurzel

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what a con they expect you to pay the postage for the application form!!!

Why not do the technical thing and have it as a downloadable pdf or word doc on your website?

21-25k hmmm you may get a desperate student for that much but that is about it.

Viper Technical Support Officer!

Is this sniffer snake division of narcotics, the snakes can get in places the dogs can't

MattW

21-25k wow must be grim up North!

BuRR

Welcome to public sector work!

MattW

True BuRR, you'd certainly attract a recent grad, the only problem will be hanging onto them when they've got a couple of years experence.

BuRR

There are plenty of "decent" grads out there..... we're just hoping for an enthusiastic one or four......

Its all very well having qualifications in computers, but you can't beat proper experience IMHO.

David_Wallis

And that experience commands a decent wage

David

Alan C

Steve. Thanks for the heads up.

I agree with David on this. I'm just about to post another thread asking about whether anyone has the SANS GSEC Certification because I'm going to start the Forensics Investigator course next month...

As we've discussed, I would take a pay cut to work in this sector, but £25k is simply too low to get good experience.

I've just posted an internal job offer within our Bank (soon to go external) asking for a Technical Specialist to work for me on Incident Response & Technical Security.. I had a big discussion with Senior management who were surprised to find we'll have to start this at at least £28K minimum to get the right people interested, otherwise we will get bright people but with no depth...

It's a shame the Public sector can't adjust to the fact that it needs to compete with the likes of my business....

You have a PM BTW...

olliecampbell

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Very interesting thread actually...anymore info...

Alan C

What info you after Oliie..?

Burr's Link below takes you straight to the site with the info...

olliecampbell

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Just general info on the job from those in the know really. Looking at slight career changes at the moment! But i didnt say that right!

sienar33

Looks like there are people on here that can prove you did!

Alan C

Ollie. I can't speak for Burr as the hiring manager, but I think you'll find the job fascinating stuff. If that type of money is OK for you, then I'd say you'll probably not find a more rewarding job. Especially helping to put some nasty people away...

I'd say it'll be technically demanding with the emphasis on proper procedures and doing things right so as to be admissible in court.. You may be working some un-sociable hours, but the team spirit should be good. I'm not party to some of the more 'special' tasks that may be asked of you (neither will you probably until you're working there) but this type of thing will add some excitement (if that type of thing excites you...)

Steve could no doubt point to some great documentation.. but I'd say check out the NIST 800 series Security Guidelines as a starter for 10...

#800-101 - Cell Phone Forensics
#800-86 - Guide to Integrating Forensic Techniques into Incident Response
#800-72 - Guidelines on PDA Forensics

The ACPO site I believe has some guidelines around UK Police force use of forensics (all good for swatting for any job interview )

HTH...

Ian Cook

Its ok, if you are the olliecampbell i know, i wont say anything mums the word, etc etc ! lol im in a similar position myself ! lol

olliecampbell

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Brilliant thanks guys....