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Old 03 March 2014, 10:36 PM
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Default What has happened to Misco?

Been trying to get to www.misco.co.uk for the past few (several) days and just been getting timeouts.

Tried a TRACERT from my PC, and also via http://network-tools.com/ but they both show that once you hit "*.alter.net" it all goes pear shaped?

Anyone any idea what is wrong?

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Old 03 March 2014, 11:20 PM
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Just got straight on.
Old 04 March 2014, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
Just got straight on.
That is weird!

I can understand it if my ISP has got a messed up DNS or routing thinkgumajig, but for a completely separate (source) web-site to also fail at around the same spot seems very worrying.

Thanks for checking, and if you do get a moment can you try entering "www.misco.co.uk" at http://network-tools.com/ to seem what comes up.

Cheers,

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p.s. I still can't see Misco
Old 04 March 2014, 10:02 PM
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I get this:

Code:
62.189.189.77 is from United Kingdom(UK) in region Western Europe

TraceRoute from Network-Tools.com to 62.189.189.77 [www.misco.co.uk]
Hop	(ms)	(ms)	(ms)		     IP Address	Host name
1 	  0 	  0 	  0 	     206.123.64.46	  -  
2 	  0 	  0 	  0 	     64.124.196.225	 xe-4-2-0.er2.dfw2.us.above.net  
3 	  2 	  0 	  0 	     64.125.27.81	 ae2.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net  
4 	  5 	  5 	  5 	     64.125.21.138	 ae3.cr2.iah1.us.above.net  
5 	  73 	  35 	  39 	     64.125.28.49	 ae6.cr2.dca2.us.above.net  
6 	  41 	  67 	  41 	     64.125.26.106	 ae4.cr2.lga5.us.above.net  
7 	  41 	  41 	  41 	     64.125.29.37	 ae1.cr1.lga5.us.above.net  
8 	  105 	  105 	  105 	     64.125.21.206	 ae3.mpr3.lhr3.uk.above.net  
9 	  113 	  114 	  112 	     64.125.21.22	 xe-5-2-0.mpr2.lhr3.uk.above.net  
10 	  110 	  113 	  109 	     195.66.236.16	 ge5-0.br1.lnd8.alter.net  
11 	  116 	  142 	  114 	     158.43.188.97	 ge-0-3-0.cr2.lnd8.alter.net  
12 	  108 	  109 	  108 	     146.188.14.174	 ge-1-1-0.xt2.lnd9.alter.net  
13 	  105 	  106 	  106 	     158.43.150.102	 xe-11-0-0.gw4.lnd9.alter.net  
14 	  111 	  110 	  110 	     158.43.3.218	 uuk203685.uk.customer.alter.net  
15 	  Timed out 	  Timed out 	  Timed out 	     	  -  
16 	  Timed out 	  Timed out 	  Timed out 	     	  -  
17 	  Timed out 	  Timed out 	  Timed out 	     	  -  
18 	  Timed out 	  Timed out 	  Timed out 	     	  -  

Trace aborted.
... which is odd, since the site itself loads perfectly OK.
Old 04 March 2014, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
I get this:

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62.189.189.77 is from United Kingdom(UK) in region Western Europe

TraceRoute from Network-Tools.com to 62.189.189.77 [www.misco.co.uk]
Hop	(ms)	(ms)	(ms)		     IP Address	Host name
1 	  0 	  0 	  0 	     206.123.64.46	  -  
2 	  0 	  0 	  0 	     64.124.196.225	 xe-4-2-0.er2.dfw2.us.above.net  
3 	  2 	  0 	  0 	     64.125.27.81	 ae2.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net  
4 	  5 	  5 	  5 	     64.125.21.138	 ae3.cr2.iah1.us.above.net  
5 	  73 	  35 	  39 	     64.125.28.49	 ae6.cr2.dca2.us.above.net  
6 	  41 	  67 	  41 	     64.125.26.106	 ae4.cr2.lga5.us.above.net  
7 	  41 	  41 	  41 	     64.125.29.37	 ae1.cr1.lga5.us.above.net  
8 	  105 	  105 	  105 	     64.125.21.206	 ae3.mpr3.lhr3.uk.above.net  
9 	  113 	  114 	  112 	     64.125.21.22	 xe-5-2-0.mpr2.lhr3.uk.above.net  
10 	  110 	  113 	  109 	     195.66.236.16	 ge5-0.br1.lnd8.alter.net  
11 	  116 	  142 	  114 	     158.43.188.97	 ge-0-3-0.cr2.lnd8.alter.net  
12 	  108 	  109 	  108 	     146.188.14.174	 ge-1-1-0.xt2.lnd9.alter.net  
13 	  105 	  106 	  106 	     158.43.150.102	 xe-11-0-0.gw4.lnd9.alter.net  
14 	  111 	  110 	  110 	     158.43.3.218	 uuk203685.uk.customer.alter.net  
15 	  Timed out 	  Timed out 	  Timed out 	     	  -  
16 	  Timed out 	  Timed out 	  Timed out 	     	  -  
17 	  Timed out 	  Timed out 	  Timed out 	     	  -  
18 	  Timed out 	  Timed out 	  Timed out 	     	  -  

Trace aborted.
... which is odd, since the site itself loads perfectly OK.
Very strange - that the (network tools) log is exactly what i got (and note how it resolves the IP address to 62.189.189.77 in both cases).

Hopefully this is not "Merka" projecting its "business influence" on the ROTW

Cheers for checking

mb
Old 04 March 2014, 10:11 PM
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Not really could just be blocking those UDP packets at the firewall, but saying that I get an access denied error when I try to visit the site. Looks foo*ed to me.
Old 04 March 2014, 10:56 PM
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I can still get on the site, but the tool times out at the same place.

I've visited these pages at random
http://www.misco.co.uk/product/Q5985...in8-DVD-Laptop
http://www.misco.co.uk/product/Q6877...op-Notebook-PC
http://www.misco.co.uk/shop/brand/hp...randshops-_-hp
Old 05 March 2014, 07:46 AM
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Works for me
Old 05 March 2014, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JDM_333
Not really could just be blocking those UDP packets at the firewall, but saying that I get an access denied error when I try to visit the site. Looks foo*ed to me.
I think that you are probably right about ALTER.NET blocking the pings (tracert), although it is a bit of an anti-social thing to do.

As for direct access, it is strange that most others can get there, but just you and me (so far) can't. Maybe they (or their parent company) are struggling?

Cheers,

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Old 05 March 2014, 10:26 PM
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Can you get on by clicking the links I posted above?

Who's your ISP?
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I can finally access the website direct now but I cannot access any of your links above except the last one.

Very strange.

I tried a traceroute from a system in London and it gets blocked at the same point, so that must be a firewall.
Old 06 March 2014, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
Can you get on by clicking the links I posted above?

Who's your ISP?
Nope, i get a "The connection was reset" error (in Firefox) regardless of the stuff after the FQDN.

ISP is Demon, who have been bought by Vodafone.

Frustratingly i still get their (Misco) markeing e-mails, and they contain links to e.misco.eu/XYZZY (which works for the embedded images, but if you browse to them it fails in the same way).
But if you browse to e.misco.eu it redirects to https://policy5.responsys.net/permission.htm.

Sounds like some web-bod at Misco has fecked-up? Such is the world of corporate takeovers

mb

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Old 06 March 2014, 09:32 PM
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Hmm. Ant and I both use Virgin Media, which worked. Don't know if that will make any difference.
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Works ok on my O2 network also
Old 07 March 2014, 02:11 PM
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Sounds like an ISP filtering policy has gone awry. They are all doing a lot of work at the moment with filtering **** and torrents its not surprising there has been a mistake made.
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
I can still get on the site, but the tool times out at the same place.

I've visited these pages at random
http://www.misco.co.uk/product/Q5985...in8-DVD-Laptop
http://www.misco.co.uk/product/Q6877...op-Notebook-PC
http://www.misco.co.uk/shop/brand/hp...randshops-_-hp
those links go via a 3rd party webgains.com - probably doing analytics or something

http://track.webgains.com/click.html...in8-DVD-Laptop
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Originally Posted by Marshall-P
Sounds like an ISP filtering policy has gone awry. They are all doing a lot of work at the moment with filtering **** and torrents its not surprising there has been a mistake made.
This is scary!!!

If "what you see" is being manipulated by others (whether via the Interwebs, TV, radio or the press) then we really are entering dangerous times.

mb
Old 07 March 2014, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
those links go via a 3rd party webgains.com - probably doing analytics or something

http://track.webgains.com/click.html...in8-DVD-Laptop
When i clicked on "ScoobyWon't"'s original links, it failed (as i expected) but your link prompted me if i wanted a "webgains" cookie - so that must have been the first time that i went that way - which backs up my previous comment (to Marshall-P), that if our (your) view of the world is being manipulated then we need to be very afraid!!

mb

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Works ok using newnet isp
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**** me - i can now get to http://www.misco.co.uk/ - with no changes "my side".

Sadly the product that i was after is more expensive (actually it is unavailable, but the next-up equivalent costs more) so it looks like Systemax has a business model heading directly for the toilet

mb
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