whats the best MP3 site ??
11 May 2005, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Ridge Racer
anyone got recommendations for MP3 sites ??
11 May 2005, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by farmer1
That is insanely cheap compared to iTunes
Its also insanely not legal, unless you are russian.
But they are quite good sites, I'll give them that!
11 May 2005, 09:47 PM
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Have you actually researched that? The Register doesn't seem to think you'd be in much danger of getting nicked...
12 May 2005, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
Have you actually researched that? The Register doesn't seem to think you'd be in much danger of getting nicked...
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12 May 2005, 09:07 AM
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Fair point AN. Wouldn't the BPI or RIAA need access to the site logs to work out who in the UK or US has been a customer? Given the site seems to be operating within Russian law, I wonder if they would have any chance of getting them?
12 May 2005, 09:09 AM
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I have been using them for about 6 months tbh. Its fairly secure ie ssl etc and had no issues, except sometimes it gets a little too busy. Download speeds are usually about 60K/s HTH
12 May 2005, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisB
Fair point AN. Wouldn't the BPI or RIAA need access to the site logs to work out who in the UK or US has been a customer? Given the site seems to be operating within Russian law, I wonder if they would have any chance of getting them?
That, is the conundrum.
I think that they could force an ISP to surrender their log files and go from there if they were that desperate. But luckily here in the UK the BPI are not that desperate, yet, at least.
12 May 2005, 12:02 PM
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AN, I still think you're making an unjustified assumption about the legality of using the site from the UK. It's perfectly legal to buy music abroad and import it, just not to actually sell it in the UK without a license. (That's where the likes of play.com had trouble, if you recall, buying CDs intended for sale outside the EU and reselling them within it - but there's nothing at all stopping you from travelling to, say, Hong Kong, buying a CD and bringing it back home with you).
However, with sites like AllOfMP3, there's a strong argument that you're actually buying music legally, in Russia - and then importing it back into the UK by the act of downloading it. Your c/c transaction is handled in Russia by a Russian company, I believe.
In that case, nobody is selling music in the UK without a license, and though the RIAA might wish it were otherwise, they don't actually make the law.
However, with sites like AllOfMP3, there's a strong argument that you're actually buying music legally, in Russia - and then importing it back into the UK by the act of downloading it. Your c/c transaction is handled in Russia by a Russian company, I believe.
In that case, nobody is selling music in the UK without a license, and though the RIAA might wish it were otherwise, they don't actually make the law.
12 May 2005, 12:21 PM
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Either way its a can of worms. But I would err on the side of caution if you are a concerned about the legality.
Nobody is sure whether it is legal or not hence it would be wise to take caution. Although the BPI are not as aggressive as the RIAA, one day they might decide to be and then they will go after these sites too.
Nobody is sure whether it is legal or not hence it would be wise to take caution. Although the BPI are not as aggressive as the RIAA, one day they might decide to be and then they will go after these sites too.
12 May 2005, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by The Register
Last month, the computer crime division of the Moscow City Police began an investigation into AllofMP3.com's activities after receiving a complaint from the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI). The police referred the case to the Prosecutor's Office with the request that the Internet site be brought to book.
However, because the site is not involved in the physical distribution of unauthorised copies of the songs it offers, it can't be put on trial for breaking Russia's copyright law, the Prosecutor's Office said last week.
The IFPI has already admitted that AllofMP3.com is operating within a loophole in Russian law, and that a successful prosecution would be unlikely
However, because the site is not involved in the physical distribution of unauthorised copies of the songs it offers, it can't be put on trial for breaking Russia's copyright law, the Prosecutor's Office said last week.
The IFPI has already admitted that AllofMP3.com is operating within a loophole in Russian law, and that a successful prosecution would be unlikely
For what it's worth, I don't use such sites myself - legal or not, it's clear that the artists make next to nothing from them anyway. I actually do want to support the artists that make the music I enjoy... though my tastes in music are a long way removed from the over-promoted, vapid and disposable crap that fills the radio, TV and the charts.
12 May 2005, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyC_772
...so, it would appear as though the authorities already have gone after them - and failed. I agree it's a can of worms, but that's not the same as saying "it's definitely illegal".
the thing with that Register article is that it is commenting on the state of affairs in Russia, from a Russian perspective. I am merely stating that I would be cautious using it.I too prefer to buy my stuff, physical CD's and iTunes, I have also used mp3search.ru back in the days when there was no legal alternative.
12 May 2005, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GaryK
The Illegitamate MP3 tax!
As I said on a previous thread "...it has been ruled that the service is legally allowed to operate in Russia as it exploits a loophole in their existing copyright law.
AllOfMP3 does not require a license to redistribute copywritten works via electronic transmission. I believe they do make a payment to Russia's PRS-type body for every song downloaded but obviously the record companies and artists make more money from distribution deals. There is no "distribution" in this case as Russian copyright law appears to limit the term "distribution" to physical media (ie. CD/DVD).
The artist is making less money at the end of the day but the question arises, how does it differ legally from you personally purchasing a physical CD in Russia and bringing it back home?"
12 May 2005, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Online sales are subject to taxation, you have a personal import limit if you take the time to go over there.
12 May 2005, 05:42 PM
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The software manufacturer should be paying the tax for you. We at McAfee had to absorb this cost either last year or the year before. I'm pissing about more than anything.
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