external hard disk thread - these had firewire, usb2, etc...
04 January 2005, 02:35 PM
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external hard disk thread - these had firewire, usb2, etc...
Can someone help me find a recent thread on here - someone recommended these cool external hard drives which had firewire, usb2, etc on the back.
"DeLacie" or something like that ?
Thinking about plugging one into our server and doing a Ghost backup each night to it.
"DeLacie" or something like that ?
Thinking about plugging one into our server and doing a Ghost backup each night to it.
04 January 2005, 02:54 PM
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get a DIY hdd enclosure 
at www.qtds.com. then you can choose your own hdd.
you wont be able to do a ghost image from source (PCs or servers) to the external hdd enclosure. you will have to ghost the image into another PC, and then copy the image into the hdd enclosure.
at www.qtds.com. then you can choose your own hdd.you wont be able to do a ghost image from source (PCs or servers) to the external hdd enclosure. you will have to ghost the image into another PC, and then copy the image into the hdd enclosure.
04 January 2005, 03:18 PM
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suba, you sure there's no support for usb2 drives under DOS (or whatever OS ghost uses)
Could I plug the external into server#2
Ghost server#1 onto the above ? (external = mapped net drive?)
Could I plug the external into server#2
Ghost server#1 onto the above ? (external = mapped net drive?)
04 January 2005, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DazV
suba, you sure there's no support for usb2 drives under DOS (or whatever OS ghost uses)
Could I plug the external into server#2
Ghost server#1 onto the above ? (external = mapped net drive?)
Could I plug the external into server#2
Ghost server#1 onto the above ? (external = mapped net drive?)
so it will be USB to USB, ghosting from one PC/server to another PC/server as an image, then copy the image into the usb external hdd.
05 January 2005, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DazV
ah bugger - may as well get an external scsi instead, to go with the internal scsi drives on the server!
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06 January 2005, 09:52 PM
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We've got a centralised backup system now running on a Unix platform but it handles many hundreds of servers and terrabytes of data every night. The tape jukebox for one of the nodes is bigger than my lounge!!
For single server sites I've done, it's been the Computer Associates software products (several name changes but basically Arcserve) with DLT devices and tapes but that can get very pricey.
This may sound stupid but what's your primary reason for backups?
Is it to cover stupid users deleting files, do you just need the data to be "somewhere safe" and accessible or is it that you need to have the facility to back up and running quickly in the event of a catstrophic failure?
You'll have a bit of all three but what your primary requirements are (and cost) should drive how you do it.
As long as you're doing your daily backup (system/data or both?), securing it and sending one off site or home with someone now and again, you're probably doing OK with what you've got.
BUT, how would you be if you went in tomorrow and the server had disintegrated overnight or you lost access to the office?
Could you work without the server and only data? Do you need the server? Would you need to go to another site? Could you work without technology for a while? Would a laptop and your backup disk be OK? Can your laptop even read your backup disk?
As well as backups, we have a production site and a disaster recovery site, everything is replicated from one to the other maybe several times a day and all the hardware has a DR partner. The emphasis we have is getting working again very quickly after a failure, the backups are more for archival and file retrieval than for complete system restores.
It's good you're thinking about it because too many people learn the backup lesson one failure too late..!! Drop me a mail with your circumstances if you want to (and excuse the w@nk expression) "take this offline"...
For single server sites I've done, it's been the Computer Associates software products (several name changes but basically Arcserve) with DLT devices and tapes but that can get very pricey.
This may sound stupid but what's your primary reason for backups?
Is it to cover stupid users deleting files, do you just need the data to be "somewhere safe" and accessible or is it that you need to have the facility to back up and running quickly in the event of a catstrophic failure?
You'll have a bit of all three but what your primary requirements are (and cost) should drive how you do it.
As long as you're doing your daily backup (system/data or both?), securing it and sending one off site or home with someone now and again, you're probably doing OK with what you've got.
BUT, how would you be if you went in tomorrow and the server had disintegrated overnight or you lost access to the office?
Could you work without the server and only data? Do you need the server? Would you need to go to another site? Could you work without technology for a while? Would a laptop and your backup disk be OK? Can your laptop even read your backup disk?
As well as backups, we have a production site and a disaster recovery site, everything is replicated from one to the other maybe several times a day and all the hardware has a DR partner. The emphasis we have is getting working again very quickly after a failure, the backups are more for archival and file retrieval than for complete system restores.
It's good you're thinking about it because too many people learn the backup lesson one failure too late..!! Drop me a mail with your circumstances if you want to (and excuse the w@nk expression) "take this offline"...
06 January 2005, 11:10 PM
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If the server got toasted tomorrow I don't have any means to get it up and running WITHIN HOURS, which is important to the company (manufacturing)
Currently I would have take the time consuming approach to manually reinstall Win2k and Win2k server, manually config DNS and DHCP and then restore the user's data of backup DVD-R that are taken off-site.
What I need is something I can take in and restore the hard disk entirely, eg. OS, settings and all. Hence why I mentioned GHOST
There's 2 servers, each 40GB SCSI
Currently I would have take the time consuming approach to manually reinstall Win2k and Win2k server, manually config DNS and DHCP and then restore the user's data of backup DVD-R that are taken off-site.
What I need is something I can take in and restore the hard disk entirely, eg. OS, settings and all. Hence why I mentioned GHOST
There's 2 servers, each 40GB SCSI
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