Xbox live/PGR2 control methods
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After playing a few games on live last night, I think present were RB5, RB5black, TheGza and a few others, and getting soundly hammered in all but a few races I was just wondering how you all configured the controller, i.e what setup, think Im on #2.
With GT3 on my PS2 I use both the analogue sticks, left for steering, right for throttle, on the Xbox controller I cannot config it the same and this is taking a bit of getting used to atm, I also had no problem with GT3 using manual gears but because of the lack of config options I'm having trouble with this as well. The PS2 controller helps in this respect as it had 4 front buttons which I used for braking and manual gear changes compared to the XBoxes meansly 2.
I know manual gear change is the way to go but surely auto shouldnt be that far off, or am I missing something?
Good clean races btw much better than the usual dodgem races that you normally get with strangers, all I have to do now is get a few more cars and especially the Scooby, just cannot find the time to play the damn thing
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With GT3 on my PS2 I use both the analogue sticks, left for steering, right for throttle, on the Xbox controller I cannot config it the same and this is taking a bit of getting used to atm, I also had no problem with GT3 using manual gears but because of the lack of config options I'm having trouble with this as well. The PS2 controller helps in this respect as it had 4 front buttons which I used for braking and manual gear changes compared to the XBoxes meansly 2.
I know manual gear change is the way to go but surely auto shouldnt be that far off, or am I missing something?
Good clean races btw much better than the usual dodgem races that you normally get with strangers, all I have to do now is get a few more cars and especially the Scooby, just cannot find the time to play the damn thing
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I just use the standard config with the left analogue thumb stick for steering and the analogue triggers for the brake and throttle.
I did try the right stick for throttle but felt I had more control with the triggers.
I'm still using auto gears too, the few times I've dabbled wih manual gears I didn't feel it offered enough of an advantage set against the likelyhood of me messing the changes. Although I do tend to use manual gears for the speed camera trials cause it gives me greater control of the changes
I did try the right stick for throttle but felt I had more control with the triggers.
I'm still using auto gears too, the few times I've dabbled wih manual gears I didn't feel it offered enough of an advantage set against the likelyhood of me messing the changes. Although I do tend to use manual gears for the speed camera trials cause it gives me greater control of the changes
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I heard that the automatic gears in PGR2 were v. good and in effect the effort to become practised at manual changing wasn't really worth it. Thoughts?
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--Standard for me too but then i'm cr@p as you will see if I can find any of you in races--
Good, cos I'm 'really' crap
Thanks guys, guess I just need more practice
Good, cos I'm 'really' crap
Thanks guys, guess I just need more practice
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Could be Bob, the missus is back though, so depends if I can get her upstairs using the spare telly. I will make every effort though
What kind of time?
What kind of time?
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Yeah after or around 10ish for me too as im on late shift this week so dong get home till well late.
The Mrs is going to kill me so will have to be a short visit for me but well up for a good blat around Scoobies only race as I haven't tried mine yet?
The Mrs is going to kill me so will have to be a short visit for me but well up for a good blat around Scoobies only race as I haven't tried mine yet?
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Yup - I'm on the standard config too.
Good games last night - I've got my communicator thingy on order so I'll be able to join in the banter soon too
RB5-Black - LOL at your "Exit stage left" comment on the 'Ring. As you could tell it was my first go there...
Good games last night - I've got my communicator thingy on order so I'll be able to join in the banter soon too
RB5-Black - LOL at your "Exit stage left" comment on the 'Ring. As you could tell it was my first go there...
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LOL
it shows when you don't know the track
good races last night......... just need all platinum now .... and I aint gonna cheat
Craig.
it shows when you don't know the track
good races last night......... just need all platinum now .... and I aint gonna cheat
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Top racing tonight lads, even if I did come last most of the time. We’ll have to do it again sometime, I might even win a race next time.
Got to knuckle down on single player and buy some more cars that Noble M12 Jye was running was class I couldn’t even keep up in the Ferrari 360.
Got to knuckle down on single player and buy some more cars that Noble M12 Jye was running was class I couldn’t even keep up in the Ferrari 360.
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Yeah, you need live Bravo, you couldnt hear me cursing you and your blod*y dodgem cars
Tim, get me late on a Friday or Sat night, I'm usually blind drunk by then and a danger to all on the virtual roads. You will win every race np
Some good close racing ln anyhow lads, especially with the Porches GT's
[Edited by Jye - 1/15/2004 11:28:13 AM]
Tim, get me late on a Friday or Sat night, I'm usually blind drunk by then and a danger to all on the virtual roads. You will win every race np
Some good close racing ln anyhow lads, especially with the Porches GT's
[Edited by Jye - 1/15/2004 11:28:13 AM]
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I was cursing loads of you who kept pushing me into the barriers on the first corner. I also couldn't hear what anyone was saying because I have to have the volume switched off on the telly so the mrs can hear the proper TV that she is watching
The Porsches were good but bloody difficult to handle when the back end goes out on them at high speed as I couldnt get them back in line too easily and ended up spinning a few times.
The scooby races were I've got to get some more kudos to buy some more cars though as the scooby is the only non free one I have above the M3 class!
I was cursing loads of you who kept pushing me into the barriers on the first corner. I also couldn't hear what anyone was saying because I have to have the volume switched off on the telly so the mrs can hear the proper TV that she is watching
The Porsches were good but bloody difficult to handle when the back end goes out on them at high speed as I couldnt get them back in line too easily and ended up spinning a few times.
The scooby races were I've got to get some more kudos to buy some more cars though as the scooby is the only non free one I have above the M3 class!
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I am not bad online rank 23 wot wot, although I seem to be getting progressively worse, rather than better, I put that down to playing too much, and not paying as much attention as I first did when it was more of a challange.
I tried the standard config which in theory makes way more sense as you've got way more control of the accelerator and break using the spring loaded alnologue triggers, however, I just could not get on with it at all, I was terrible.
I now use the same set up as I did gt2 (never played 3), using joy sticks for steering, and accl/break. I can still keep up with some very fast people using this, think it's just a case of practice and getting used to it, so that it becomes sencond nature and you don't have to thikn about it.
I also use auto rather than manual as someone else said, I don't actually think that on this game manual gives you any speed advantage, and just gives you more to think about, and more fiddling to do. The auto system works very well, and you can actually still drop a gear (or several coming up to a corner while breaking). IE, as you start to slow, and before you make your turn in, click the left trigger a couple of times and it will shift down. I also think it has some kind of kick down thing, as if you click the accl forward twice very quickly when the engine is labouring it will move down a gear. GT2 and I hear GT3 also you could never be as quick on auto as manual, but I don't think it applies to this game.
The controller setup I use does have draw backs, in order to use the breaks obviously you have to let off the throttle completely which on the ring is akin to putting on the back breaks, and it is much harder to give a little lift of as the travel between centre and full is so short. Obviously getting excitable during a race it's also easy to be a bit aggressive with it, and end up spinning.
To conclude just get the set up you're most happy with, and do as much of the single player that you can before venturing online. The silvers are pretty easy, most of the golds are too, but a few are quite tricky. Plats are well hard, I have done about 34, and can't be arsed with any more. But if you're at the standard to complete gold, you'll give most online gamers a run for their money.
Most of it's about knowing the tracks lines, breaking distances, corners speeds, and where to excellerate etc. People tend to play quite dirty, so if you're going to fast into a corner, a little nudge (or an f'ing great whack is likely to send you spinning, but if you're at around the right speed, you should be smore stable and able to keep up with them, and get the wee buggars back on the next corner .
Also when you do optimatch serach you can choose to play with people of your own experience, which means that you'll have a bit more of an even match.
Because of the lack of accelerator and break control, I am seriuosly considering a steering wheel. I actually just came in here to find the post abotu it, shame they all seem to be a bit crap.
[Edited by mynickers - 1/15/2004 12:08:42 PM]
I tried the standard config which in theory makes way more sense as you've got way more control of the accelerator and break using the spring loaded alnologue triggers, however, I just could not get on with it at all, I was terrible.
I now use the same set up as I did gt2 (never played 3), using joy sticks for steering, and accl/break. I can still keep up with some very fast people using this, think it's just a case of practice and getting used to it, so that it becomes sencond nature and you don't have to thikn about it.
I also use auto rather than manual as someone else said, I don't actually think that on this game manual gives you any speed advantage, and just gives you more to think about, and more fiddling to do. The auto system works very well, and you can actually still drop a gear (or several coming up to a corner while breaking). IE, as you start to slow, and before you make your turn in, click the left trigger a couple of times and it will shift down. I also think it has some kind of kick down thing, as if you click the accl forward twice very quickly when the engine is labouring it will move down a gear. GT2 and I hear GT3 also you could never be as quick on auto as manual, but I don't think it applies to this game.
The controller setup I use does have draw backs, in order to use the breaks obviously you have to let off the throttle completely which on the ring is akin to putting on the back breaks, and it is much harder to give a little lift of as the travel between centre and full is so short. Obviously getting excitable during a race it's also easy to be a bit aggressive with it, and end up spinning.
To conclude just get the set up you're most happy with, and do as much of the single player that you can before venturing online. The silvers are pretty easy, most of the golds are too, but a few are quite tricky. Plats are well hard, I have done about 34, and can't be arsed with any more. But if you're at the standard to complete gold, you'll give most online gamers a run for their money.
Most of it's about knowing the tracks lines, breaking distances, corners speeds, and where to excellerate etc. People tend to play quite dirty, so if you're going to fast into a corner, a little nudge (or an f'ing great whack is likely to send you spinning, but if you're at around the right speed, you should be smore stable and able to keep up with them, and get the wee buggars back on the next corner .
Also when you do optimatch serach you can choose to play with people of your own experience, which means that you'll have a bit more of an even match.
Because of the lack of accelerator and break control, I am seriuosly considering a steering wheel. I actually just came in here to find the post abotu it, shame they all seem to be a bit crap.
[Edited by mynickers - 1/15/2004 12:08:42 PM]
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Good well thought out post nickers. I'll need to try the analouge stick again for throttle, just dont like where it's positioned tbo. The kick down theory is interesting, I'll need to look into that as well but I know it drops down gears with just the right amount of braking.
Bravo, I know what you mean about getting shunted, I really like clean games but its hard to get these when its busy, especially with 'public' games, really hate it when some muppet just fire into the corner flat out just in the hope of spinning you, not that any of the SN lads seem that way inclined which is great
Which brings me on to reserving slots to keep idiots out. Can anyone explain how the reserve friend slot bit of Live works, as I've had a look but wasnt sure what I was supposed to do exactly.
Bravo, I know what you mean about getting shunted, I really like clean games but its hard to get these when its busy, especially with 'public' games, really hate it when some muppet just fire into the corner flat out just in the hope of spinning you, not that any of the SN lads seem that way inclined which is great
Which brings me on to reserving slots to keep idiots out. Can anyone explain how the reserve friend slot bit of Live works, as I've had a look but wasnt sure what I was supposed to do exactly.
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As much as I hate to generalise about huge nations, the yanks are generally the worst, I dont mind being shunted by someone who is better than me, cause they got a better line, or I left a window, but some of them just go full pelt into the corner use you to break and turn, they carry on you're left in the corner - argh! And then you catch them up a few bends later, if someone knocks me out the way, and I can't catch them up, fair play to them. But the way to tell who can drive is to see what kudos people earn, I often come last with 2k odd, and the winner has 800.
That said, if you're quicker than someone and they dont' want to let you past its hard not to end up hitting them really! My policy is play dirty with me, and I will return the favour
That said, if you're quicker than someone and they dont' want to let you past its hard not to end up hitting them really! My policy is play dirty with me, and I will return the favour
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