BT Home Highway questions
11 July 2002, 04:10 PM
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BT do offer some sort of USB TA themselves, but I'd avoid it and go for a 3rd party product (ie Eicon) where drivers are easier to get hold of.
[Edited by ChrisB - 11/7/2002 4:11:09 PM]
[Edited by ChrisB - 11/7/2002 4:11:09 PM]
11 July 2002, 05:07 PM
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Hi Puff
How's it going mate? Glad to be out of London?
Here's one I'm looking at
Thanks lads - keep 'em coming.
Cheers
Kav
[Edited by Mark Miwurdz - 11/7/2002 8:26:44 PM]
How's it going mate? Glad to be out of London?
Here's one I'm looking at
Thanks lads - keep 'em coming.
Cheers
Kav
[Edited by Mark Miwurdz - 11/7/2002 8:26:44 PM]
11 July 2002, 10:16 PM
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We use the usb connection provided by the ISDN box on the wall. I have had absolutley no problems. It has the added advantage that it is free 
Can someone who is advocating an expensive terminal adaptor please enlighten me as to why it is better?
[Edited by nkh - 11/7/2002 10:28:43 PM]
Can someone who is advocating an expensive terminal adaptor please enlighten me as to why it is better?
[Edited by nkh - 11/7/2002 10:28:43 PM]
07 November 2002, 03:57 PM
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Hi Chaps
I'm desperate for a faster internet connection at home but with no hope of our local exchange ever being ADSL enabled, I'm weighing up 2 options (neither of which is probably ideal):
1. BT Home Highway
2. Wireless connection
I've got all the info I need on option 2 but I could do with a hand on option 1.
I have 2 lines installed at home at present - one for the phone (almost exclusively used by herself) and one for internet access. I reckon we pay about £650 a year or so on both lines which includes rental etc.
On the face of it, converting to Home Highway looks a better deal financially - there's one 'all-in' package for £38 a month. I know there's a conversion charge of £79 but what else do I need? The BT website mentions the need for an internal ISDN card but it's not clear if you still need this if your PC has a USB port. An answer on this point would be handy.
I'd welcome any user experiences. I know BT is not the best loved insitution in the UK but please be as objective as possible.
Thanks for your help.
Cheers
Kav
I'm desperate for a faster internet connection at home but with no hope of our local exchange ever being ADSL enabled, I'm weighing up 2 options (neither of which is probably ideal):
1. BT Home Highway
2. Wireless connection
I've got all the info I need on option 2 but I could do with a hand on option 1.
I have 2 lines installed at home at present - one for the phone (almost exclusively used by herself) and one for internet access. I reckon we pay about £650 a year or so on both lines which includes rental etc.
On the face of it, converting to Home Highway looks a better deal financially - there's one 'all-in' package for £38 a month. I know there's a conversion charge of £79 but what else do I need? The BT website mentions the need for an internal ISDN card but it's not clear if you still need this if your PC has a USB port. An answer on this point would be handy.
I'd welcome any user experiences. I know BT is not the best loved insitution in the UK but please be as objective as possible.
Thanks for your help.
Cheers
Kav
07 November 2002, 04:07 PM
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Yes, you will need something for your PC.
It could be an external ISDN Terminal Adapter (connected via serial or USB), or an internal card that uses a PCI slot.
An internal card made by Eicon would be around £50 or a cheaper Asus one might be around £20 to £25.
It could be an external ISDN Terminal Adapter (connected via serial or USB), or an internal card that uses a PCI slot.
An internal card made by Eicon would be around £50 or a cheaper Asus one might be around £20 to £25.
07 November 2002, 04:32 PM
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What the real pain is getting an ISP to work with unmetered access and ISDN (64k ok, 128K difficult) I have been using vispa, but they have now limited me to 100 hours per month @128k or 200 @64 - b4stards they are...
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07 November 2002, 04:42 PM
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New HH box on the wall has a USB port. so if the PC is within USB cable reach you dont *need* a TA.
Personally I'd avoid it like the plague and buy a decent PCI TA - like the Eicon DIVA.
Deano
Personally I'd avoid it like the plague and buy a decent PCI TA - like the Eicon DIVA.
Deano
07 November 2002, 10:38 PM
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2 things for me really.
1) prior experience with BT branded modems/TAa suggests drivers will be the bare minimum required and on-going driver development will be minimal if it exists at all.
2) I have an instinctive dislike for all things USB when mixed with anything "networky" - but then I get to play with large cisco boxes all day so I've been bought up to be snobby (and ****
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Deano
1) prior experience with BT branded modems/TAa suggests drivers will be the bare minimum required and on-going driver development will be minimal if it exists at all.
2) I have an instinctive dislike for all things USB when mixed with anything "networky" - but then I get to play with large cisco boxes all day so I've been bought up to be snobby (and ****
) about it Deano
08 November 2002, 11:08 AM
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Deano
Strange - I did it as per your profile. Even stranger (and more embarassing), I can't even remember what it was I asked you. I'll resend it from home tonight.
Cheers
Kav
Strange - I did it as per your profile. Even stranger (and more embarassing), I can't even remember what it was I asked you. I'll resend it from home tonight.
Cheers
Kav
08 November 2002, 12:00 PM
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Hi Mark,
Just had HH installed myself. ADSL is a no-no for me 'cos of BTs total ineptitude and arragance and crapness .... (!!!) but the HH lot were helpfulness personified. Basically I wanted faster i'net access and a second line. Previously I used the only 'phone line for dialup access as well via BTOpenworld.
Had the HH installed and the BTOpenworld dial up has not changed (the 'phone number remains the same for ISDN64 dialup) but neither has the price! Plus you also get ISDN128 as well if you want to tie up both lines for a large download. You just get charged 2 local rate calls.
You don't need anything in your PC apart from a spare USB connection if you're close enough to the box. I got an internal PCI ISDN modem and a long piece of cat5 cable. You have two digital connections on the HH box so that means I can add another machine in the future - which may be necessary if the Gfs business takes off and I can persuade her to get off my pooter .....
Anyhows, speed is generally (64K) faster than a 56K modem and more consistant. Definitely a lot more *usable*. The 128K option is (for me anyway) about 4/5 times + faster than the 56K modem. Plus for ISDN you get looged on silently (no modem beeps and crackles) and much faster - generally in less than 5 secs.
Recommended if you can't get ADSL due to BTs complete ADSL bollocks up ......
Dave
PS: pissed with BT? Moi? Nah ......
Just had HH installed myself. ADSL is a no-no for me 'cos of BTs total ineptitude and arragance and crapness .... (!!!) but the HH lot were helpfulness personified. Basically I wanted faster i'net access and a second line. Previously I used the only 'phone line for dialup access as well via BTOpenworld.
Had the HH installed and the BTOpenworld dial up has not changed (the 'phone number remains the same for ISDN64 dialup) but neither has the price! Plus you also get ISDN128 as well if you want to tie up both lines for a large download. You just get charged 2 local rate calls.
You don't need anything in your PC apart from a spare USB connection if you're close enough to the box. I got an internal PCI ISDN modem and a long piece of cat5 cable. You have two digital connections on the HH box so that means I can add another machine in the future - which may be necessary if the Gfs business takes off and I can persuade her to get off my pooter .....
Anyhows, speed is generally (64K) faster than a 56K modem and more consistant. Definitely a lot more *usable*. The 128K option is (for me anyway) about 4/5 times + faster than the 56K modem. Plus for ISDN you get looged on silently (no modem beeps and crackles) and much faster - generally in less than 5 secs.
Recommended if you can't get ADSL due to BTs complete ADSL bollocks up ......
Dave
PS: pissed with BT? Moi? Nah ......
08 November 2002, 01:07 PM
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i have just had HH installed mainly for work purposes, i have bought a 5m USB cable as i cannot find anything longer that reaches the sofa, i find this is working well, BT provide CD with drivers !! no problem installing on my laptop. Much faster, less connection issues. Although my ISP doesnt offer free isdn 24h dialup, only on 64k(single line) !!! they offer isdn but they only offer it at paying local rate calls, ie it will be a 0845 number around 2-3p a minute throughout the day, can work out expensive, 64k is good enough for me to browse scoobynet though, can switch to isdn for winmx and big downloads.
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