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New Macs up to 90% faster than 2.5Ghz P4

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Old 13 August 2002, 09:07 PM
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Any of you Mac guys out there should check out the apple site to see the monstrous new PowerMacs. Massive perfomance ven from the entry level machine which outperforms a P4 2.5Ghz by 45%. Hope to have UK pricing tomorrow afternoon .



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Old 13 August 2002, 09:10 PM
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hmm that old chestnut, I think you'll find it depends on what is actually being done, they may look nice but hey its still a niche market.

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Old 13 August 2002, 09:14 PM
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Hehe, my p4 will be pushing past 3.2ghz at the weekend, so not so much faster

Pointless post, but hey, i'm drunk. Yay me!

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Yep tomorrow. Register are just guessing. No official UK announcements yet.

Gary, are you Sharon Smiths other half by any chance ?


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Old 13 August 2002, 11:38 PM
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Just reading around the web, the new Mac's are dual CPU?

So comparing against a single CPU P4 isn't really a level playing field. Have to compare to Dual Xeons with HT and SMP XPs as well IMO.
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Didn't think you could get a dual Xenon for less than £1300.

Certianly on the Sevrer side of things you can't stick dual Xenons in a 1U rackmounter server due to heat issues.

Its just interesting where Apple are going and it looks like its now make or break from them. It not the hardware as there is little doubt its more reliable and has a better architecture but the OS strategy is alienating its customers. OSX whilst is probably the best OS out there has few killer apps to make people really want to move over right now but no Quark which is the big market.


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Old 14 August 2002, 08:00 AM
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Er, guess why apple are still using the same CPU but doubling them up??? because they haven't got a fecking clue where they are going next!!! what are they anyway, dual 1.1Ghz..... don't make me laugh!! ooooo they have got DDR now tho.... just shows you how ****e the last ones really were.... OSX ..... say no more..
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Allan,

yes I am! She said you were on here, when I saw you pushing the macs then I knew!!!

SO the new macs are 90% faster, are they 90% dearer as well?

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Old 14 August 2002, 09:17 AM
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Hmm..

Crappy picture cos it's a webcam jobbie but..



In 4U I have 16 Ghz of processing power (Dual Xeon 2Ghz in each), 12 disks, 8 Network adapters and a potential of 48GB RAM.

Photo courtesy of Mr Titan himself
Old 14 August 2002, 09:51 AM
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Have seen the new G4's and they are rather nice, methinks the office will be aquiring one soon.

I am sooooooooooo not going to get into the apple vs PC debate. I don't have much choice as we're a mac software devleoper, but I do have a PC at home.

If you want to play games get a pc, macs are just not too good at that. To be honest, if I need to run a PC app at work I fire up Virtual PC, works groovy for me.

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Markus,

what dev. IDE do you use on Mac, codewarrior? Dont know of any others, would love to do some work on one (if only Borland ported Delphi!)

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Agree with markus that most games are a waste of time on a Mac as few decent ones get ported over.

ChrisB thanks for the info on the dual Xeon servers, I stand corrected and I think Apple also do now , or will. What manufacturer are they from ?



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Old 15 August 2002, 11:33 AM
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All SuperMicro kit (very good stuff)

http://www.supermicro.com/PRODUCT/SU...ver6012P-6.htm I think is the one.
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Strange how most of the speed test comparisons are done using photoshop..... possibly coded with the mac in mind???
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Chris,

is that a pile of empty pizza boxes on the top left of the photo?

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