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Old 26 June 2002, 10:27 AM
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Does anyone use BTOpenworld connect anytime with a router. (I know there is a LAN option...)
There should not be any difference between a router and an ISDN card and as such you should be able to connect to Openworld anytime with a router.
We can't, but can connect to it using a modem.

Does anyone know if you absolutley can not connect using a router, BT say you should be able too but just don't support it.
Old 26 June 2002, 10:41 AM
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You should be able to. Its a case of getting the Router MAC address recognised by the system instead of the ISDN card one.

Not sure about BTOW, but on NTL with C/M, I unplugged the C/M from the power and network for about 4 hours. Then I reconnected it with the router in place and it synch'd up straight away.
Old 26 June 2002, 11:07 AM
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Figment, not sure I follow you there.
Actually I am trying to find this out for a customer who has never had an ISDN card installed, if you are suggesting that an ISDN cards MAC address was linked to the user details and as a result failing because a different device was trying to log in then I don't think thats the case. He has only just signed up and his router was the first device to try to connect, we did connect with the modem but after a number of attempts with router(s).
I would have thought the router would just work.
We get PPP PAP failures. Seems odd, I think we are being authenticated OK as if I change the password to be incorrect we get an authentification realted error in the logs.
Old 26 June 2002, 12:03 PM
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ISDN - So its dial-up anytime ?

Think Figment may be confusing MAC address with some cable/adsl solutions.

If its a cisco the main problem is that by default it will attempt to authenticate both ways. BT end will obviously not attempt to authenticate itself to you so it will fail. If it is Cisco I'll post a dialer config example that should work for most ISDN PPP ISPs (well it works for Freeserve )

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Old 26 June 2002, 12:07 PM
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The router is a Netopia ISDN router.
Old 26 June 2002, 12:12 PM
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interface Ethernet0
ip address 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.0
ip nat inside

interface BRI0
no ip address
encapsulation ppp
dialer pool-member 1
isdn switch-type basic-net3
ppp authentication pap

interface Dialer1
ip address negotiated
ip nat outside
encapsulation ppp
dialer pool 1
dialer string <ISP NUMBER>
dialer-group 1
no cdp enable
ppp authentication pap callin
ppp pap sent-username <ISP U/NAME> password <ISP P/W>

dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
ip nat inside source list 1 interface Dialer1 overload
access-list 1 permit 172.16.1.0 0.0.0.255

Needs security (ACLs of F/W feature set etc) - but should dial-in OK

Deano

Edit - You replied whilst I was copy/pasting - Its the equivalent of the "pap callin" and "pap sent-username" you need. Aplogies but I've never used a netopia so cant help beyond that.



[Edited by dsmith - 6/26/2002 12:13:54 PM]
Old 26 June 2002, 12:12 PM
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Cheers Deano, will check that out.

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I use a 3Com OfficeConnect ISDN LAN Modem (aka no frills router) with a 3Com OC Firewall 25 to dial-up BTi Anytime from home. Works a treat and instant re-dial on link failure is very handy.
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Hmm, still no luck...
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Where does it fail? On auth.?
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ISDN:Bch1 Down
PPP PAP failure
Old 26 June 2002, 12:52 PM
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26/06/02 11:09:47 PPP-3 down: PPP PAP failure, cause: 16, diag: 8
26/06/02 11:09:47 Received Clear Confirm for our DN: (not supplied)
26/06/02 11:09:47 Issued Clear Request for our DN: (not supplied)
26/06/02 11:09:47 Received Disc. Ind. from DN: 08089933001, Cause: 16
26/06/02 11:09:47 * PPP: PAP authentication failed, Channel 1
Reason: Remote refused our authentication attempt
26/06/02 11:09:47 PPP: Auth. Type mismatch, Channel 1,
Local PAP , Remote CHAP
26/06/02 11:09:44 PPP: Channel 1 up, Dialout
Profile name: xxx
26/06/02 11:09:44 Received Connect Ind. for DN: 08089933001
26/06/02 11:09:44 >>Issued 64Kb Setup Request from our DN: (not supplied)


What number do you guys dial?
Old 26 June 2002, 12:57 PM
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Same number I think, but would need to check.

What about trying the same account on the PAYG number?

http://www.btopenworld.com/mybtopenworld/dialupnumbers
Old 26 June 2002, 01:15 PM
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Ar$e, I get the auth failure despite using the same details that work using a modem plugged into the analogue ports of the same router...
Old 26 June 2002, 02:02 PM
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"26/06/02 11:09:47 PPP: Auth. Type mismatch, Channel 1,
Local PAP , Remote CHAP"

Would have expected them to be using PAP - but perhaps you should set yours to CHAP ?
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dsmith, you are a genius
Well, you actually read the error message properly...

Cheers Chap ( )
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