Notices
Computer & Technology Related Post here for help and discussion of computing and related technology. Internet, TVs, phones, consoles, computers, tablets and any other gadgets.

Nvidia vs ATI

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 16 December 2014, 09:44 AM
  #1  
Littleted
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
Littleted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Leeds
Posts: 4,062
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default Nvidia vs ATI

Ok so long long ago I ran an old Nvida card 4600 I think, I had issues dropping to desktop and crashing and found it was shoddy drivers from Nvidia.


I bought a new PC 4 years ago and that came with a top of the range ( back then ) ATI 5870, the PC ran like a dream for 3 years, I then upgraded the card to a Nvidia GTX770, now it ran ok for 12 months then I start getting issues. In games I cannot run anything now without VSYNC enabled ive checked temps etc, I don't clock them but still no good.


Ive succumb to the fact that the cards faulty or just doesn't like windows 8.1. Nvidia did comment that Microsoft had patched something that makes their drivers act weird, but my view is Nvidia should have a close MSFT relation ship and not pass the buck.


One of the errors ive seen in Warcraft is, blah blah had denied access to Nvidia DLL, ive changed Virus products even ran without one and defender disabled but still crap.


Ive now ordered a new R290 ati, im off back I,ll report back tomorrow if its any better...
Old 16 December 2014, 10:30 AM
  #2  
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Tidgy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Notts
Posts: 23,118
Received 150 Likes on 115 Posts
Default

windows 8.1 , ,,,,,,, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

nuff said
Old 16 December 2014, 10:32 AM
  #3  
Littleted
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
Littleted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Leeds
Posts: 4,062
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

LOL
Old 16 December 2014, 10:37 AM
  #4  
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Tidgy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Notts
Posts: 23,118
Received 150 Likes on 115 Posts
Default

All joking aside i suspect its a driver issue related to windows compatability with 8.1.

my 570 runs 99% of games on max settings so 770 should walk all over them
Old 16 December 2014, 07:34 PM
  #5  
ScoobyDoo555
Scooby Regular
 
ScoobyDoo555's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Does it matter?
Posts: 11,217
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Don't mean to thread hijack, but I'm looking at a 570 card for a i5 or i7-based gaming machine. They seem quite cheap compared to the 670 and 770. Are they still a worthwhile card to look at? I'd be upgrading in 6-9months anyway, so this would be a stop gap, just to get the machine running.....
Old 16 December 2014, 07:36 PM
  #6  
Littleted
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
Littleted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Leeds
Posts: 4,062
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

5850 and 5870 will both run stuff fine...
The r290 I got was only 220 r285 180
Old 17 December 2014, 07:48 AM
  #7  
Galifrey
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Galifrey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Corsham
Posts: 1,356
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/...-download.html

Make sure you have the correct 32 or 64 bit version.

Custom Install, remove all existing drivers first.

Trending Topics

Old 17 December 2014, 09:47 AM
  #8  
Littleted
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
Littleted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Leeds
Posts: 4,062
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

forgot about them.. thanks
Old 17 December 2014, 04:08 PM
  #9  
jura11
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (7)
 
jura11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: www.slowboy-racing.co.uk
Posts: 10,523
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Hi there

I've currently only GTX560Ti which is OK for my needs, don't play games on my PC,mostly my GPU is used for CUDA processing and that's it,mostly 3D stuff where I'm using CUDA,but how many issues I've in my life with nVidia and their drivers,previously I've HD5870 which has been faultless card and this GTX560 come on,after 1 year of owning,my temps went through the roof(100C at idle),I've replaced thermal paste for Shin Etsu paste,now temps are in nice 30C and drivers,in some apps I've been not able to use CUDA or using GPU for acceleration

Due this I' considering ditching nVidia and get again ATI/AMD,looks like I will go with R9 295X2,price has went down from £1k to £400(in US I'm able to get this GPU at this price) or I will wait and i will go with new R9 380X or 390X series,which looks like will outperform 970/980

I've used too GTX750 which hasn't been bad,but drivers issues,I've sold it after 3 months

Thanks,Jura
Old 17 December 2014, 06:28 PM
  #10  
Littleted
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
Littleted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Leeds
Posts: 4,062
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Well the r290 came today, colours look richer, games all run without a hitch, world of tanks maxed out 50 to 80 fps....

Only issue I had was the 27 inch screen had a black border but after googling it, it's common if you use HDMI, there is a setting on catalyst for overscan or something on monitor just slide that to o% and it filled the screen

Great stuff, will go test it again in a bit but feel like **** got man flu so in bed eyes streaming coughing like a lepper
Old 18 December 2014, 08:45 AM
  #11  
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Tidgy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Notts
Posts: 23,118
Received 150 Likes on 115 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo555
Don't mean to thread hijack, but I'm looking at a 570 card for a i5 or i7-based gaming machine. They seem quite cheap compared to the 670 and 770. Are they still a worthwhile card to look at? I'd be upgrading in 6-9months anyway, so this would be a stop gap, just to get the machine running.....
how much is it?
Old 18 December 2014, 01:43 PM
  #12  
ALi-B
Moderator
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (1)
 
ALi-B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: The hell where youth and laughter go
Posts: 38,034
Received 301 Likes on 240 Posts
Default

Littleted; sounds like you were in the same boat as I was a few year back.

- Nvidia cards with shoddy drivers.

Then to cap it off a few Laptops with shoddy Nvidia chipsets that overheat and fail.

Since then I've been an ATi man and never looked back
Old 18 December 2014, 01:46 PM
  #13  
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Tidgy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Notts
Posts: 23,118
Received 150 Likes on 115 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ALi-B
Littleted; sounds like you were in the same boat as I was a few year back.

- Nvidia cards with shoddy drivers.

Then to cap it off a few Laptops with shoddy Nvidia chipsets that overheat and fail.

Since then I've been an ATi man and never looked back
I've had no issues with Nvidia cards and used em for the past 5-6 years
Old 18 December 2014, 01:50 PM
  #14  
ALi-B
Moderator
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (1)
 
ALi-B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: The hell where youth and laughter go
Posts: 38,034
Received 301 Likes on 240 Posts
Default

I don't doubt you. But I've been bitten more than four times now over the years. Its not on.

Like I've had dodgy/flakey Asus boards and faultless Gigabyte boards, when I know many people will say the exact opposite.
Old 18 December 2014, 03:32 PM
  #15  
Galifrey
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Galifrey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Corsham
Posts: 1,356
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo555
Don't mean to thread hijack, but I'm looking at a 570 card for a i5 or i7-based gaming machine. They seem quite cheap compared to the 670 and 770. Are they still a worthwhile card to look at? I'd be upgrading in 6-9months anyway, so this would be a stop gap, just to get the machine running.....
Honestly, I would pay the extra and get one of the silent MSI 700 series cards.

500 series cards are some of the noisiest I have owned, like having a hurricane in the CPU case!
Old 22 December 2014, 11:37 AM
  #16  
Beef
Scooby Regular
 
Beef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 1,054
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Not always - my 570 Phantom is near-silent in daily use.

However, in real terms I would suggest getting a 750 Ti if you want a cheap card. Can be had very cheap (~£120), offers very good performance for it's class, and doesn't require a PSU upgrade to use as it draws all it's power through the PCIe bus.

Being from the newer series has support for the later features (eg shadowplay), and is am excellent short-term card.

Edit: Check this out: £114 delivered for a 2GB factory-overclocked card: http://goo.gl/8TD9pO

Last edited by Beef; 22 December 2014 at 11:39 AM. Reason: Added link to card
Old 23 December 2014, 09:03 AM
  #17  
Galifrey
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Galifrey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Corsham
Posts: 1,356
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

750 Ti's are significantly slower than the GTX760 which is roughly equivalent to a GTX570 but quieter with lower consumption (less heat and cooling required) and includes shadowplay and live streaming.

A 750TI would be a downgrade from his current card so not what he is looking for clearly.

The 760 would give slight performance increase over his GTX 570 and add shadowplay video recording and live streaming.

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-...eForce-GTX-570

Frankly a 750ti is a cheap junk card and if he has a GTX570 already, he wont need a power upgrade for a GTX 760.
Old 23 December 2014, 09:21 AM
  #18  
Beef
Scooby Regular
 
Beef's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 1,054
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I read it as he doesn't have a 570 already.
Old 23 December 2014, 10:14 AM
  #19  
Littleted
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
Littleted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Leeds
Posts: 4,062
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

R285 would be where id go Budget

R290 if you can stretch, after a week now with the R290 the GTX770 was junk
Old 24 December 2014, 09:32 AM
  #20  
BlkKnight
Scooby Regular
 
BlkKnight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: High Wycombe
Posts: 3,763
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Seriously?

Having always been in the red corner, it pains me to say that the Nvidea 970 GTX is the way to go sub £260

Sees off the R290X:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinio...-radeon-r9-290
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8568/t...view-feat-evga

Much Lower TDP, lower power usage, faster frame rates

AMD are due to release toward the end of Q1 so we shall wait and see. But for now, the crown goes to Nvidea.

Last edited by BlkKnight; 24 December 2014 at 09:33 AM.
Old 24 December 2014, 12:04 PM
  #21  
Littleted
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
Littleted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Leeds
Posts: 4,062
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Don't do stats they mean **** to me... After using a 5870 for 3 years and buying the GTX 770 as what I thought was an upgrade, according to GPU boss its a big upgrade ,I didn't notice anything different, FPS may have been higher but I wasn't in any low FPS scenarios. So smoothness I didn't know and actually thought it was a waste of money.

Stats aside my point was shoddy drivers from Nvidia, nothing but trouble, and this was exact same many years ago thus it leaves a bad taste in my mouth for anything Nvidia,

Don't get me wrong though many people have seemless experiences mine have been 100percent good with ati, temp FPS not bothered for that extra bit of grunt its unnoticeable I've been checking temps and its doesn't get any hotter than the Nvidia did around 63 on full load, but I do have the sapphire tri cooling model anyway which is a few degrees cooler...

I think if he wants Nvidia then I'm with you, but ATI my comment stands.

Last edited by Littleted; 24 December 2014 at 12:05 PM.
Old 24 December 2014, 01:42 PM
  #22  
ALi-B
Moderator
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (1)
 
ALi-B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: The hell where youth and laughter go
Posts: 38,034
Received 301 Likes on 240 Posts
Default

I'm still using my old 4870. Have never been able to fault it, except its old hat now.
Old 24 December 2014, 04:09 PM
  #23  
Galifrey
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Galifrey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Corsham
Posts: 1,356
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Beef
I read it as he doesn't have a 570 already.
You are right, but a PSU for a 570 will be fine for a 760.
Old 24 December 2014, 06:55 PM
  #24  
BlkKnight
Scooby Regular
 
BlkKnight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: High Wycombe
Posts: 3,763
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The 5870 was a legend of a card. I've been using one until recently.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Coupe Rob
Subaru Parts
7
09 October 2015 09:43 AM
BlkKnight
Non Scooby Related
104
01 October 2015 09:40 PM
Shaun
Computer & Technology Related
25
02 August 2002 07:05 PM
DazV
Computer & Technology Related
17
16 February 2002 10:07 PM



Quick Reply: Nvidia vs ATI



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:02 AM.