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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 07:10 PM
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Can I have your views please good and bad as I am thinking of buying a second hand set.
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 07:13 PM
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Can I have your views please good and bad as I am thinking of buying a second hand set.
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i bought a second hand set of bc coilovers that had the uprated rubber top mount fitted to eliminate road noise and they were fitted with road friendly springs so my car doesnt bounce down the road

happy so far,just need a fast road set up now
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 07:18 PM
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i bought a second hand set of bc coilovers that had the uprated rubber top mount fitted to eliminate road noise and they were fitted with road friendly springs so my car doesnt bounce down the road

happy so far,just need a fast road set up now
good to hear mate, got my eye on some cuscos.
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im going to carnetix to get a fast road set up if you fancy popping over aswell
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lofty35
good to hear mate, got my eye on some cuscos.
Cusco are hard or if you want firm,they're made for Japan roads,not UK,they're very similar to the Tein and few other Japan specific coilovers

Thanks,Jura
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
im going to carnetix to get a fast road set up if you fancy popping over aswell
when you going, I was there Tuesday, good people really helpful.
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jura11
Cusco are hard or if you want firm,they're made for Japan roads,not UK,they're very similar to the Tein and few other Japan specific coilovers

Thanks,Jura
I had tein lowering springs on my classic and last bug. If there similar to that ride I didn't think it was to bad.
Is the ride much firmer than bc's?
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Originally Posted by lofty35
when you going, I was there Tuesday, good people really helpful.
wont be for a few weeks as my car is in the paintshop next week then i need to source some xxr wheels

looking around 3 weeks or so
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 07:30 PM
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Just be careful with coilovers mate, Make sure you pick the right coilover for your needs, Dont just pick a set up because there cheap, in my experience I have found Jap coilovers(HKS, Cusco, etc) way to hard for our roads, even some of the Tein coilovers I have found to hard!!

I know they can be expensive, but AST, KW coilovers, Eibach are much suited to our roads, I have Eibach pro street coilovers on my car, and I feel there the best of both worlds, the car drives nice/smooth on them, and there not as harsh as the jap brand coilovers!!

Nothing worse then having a rock hard set of coilovers, and giving it some and you hit a bit of un-even/bumpy road surface to really un-settle your car!!
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
wont be for a few weeks as my car is in the paintshop next week then i need to source some xxr wheels

looking around 3 weeks or so
same here mate around end of march
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 07:39 PM
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just got a set of second hand ast coilovers from a type 20 getting fitted in a couple of weeks
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
im going to carnetix to get a fast road set up if you fancy popping over aswell
How much do they charge for a full setup out of interest buddy ??
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
Just be careful with coilovers mate, Make sure you pick the right coilover for your needs, Dont just pick a set up because there cheap, in my experience I have found Jap coilovers(HKS, Cusco, etc) way to hard for our roads, even some of the Tein coilovers I have found to hard!!

I know they can be expensive, but AST, KW coilovers, Eibach are much suited to our roads, I have Eibach pro street coilovers on my car, and I feel there the best of both worlds, the car drives nice/smooth on them, and there not as harsh as the jap brand coilovers!!

Nothing worse then having a rock hard set of coilovers, and giving it some and you hit a bit of un-even/bumpy road surface to really un-settle your car!!
thanks mate, will give that some thought. Are d2's any good?
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
How much do they charge for a full setup out of interest buddy ??
i think its around £100 with my midland scoobies discount and they do it with you in the car
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Originally Posted by lofty35
thanks mate, will give that some thought. Are d2's any good?
i would steer clear of d2's
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As above Japan specific coilovers like HKS,Cusco or Tein are harder/firmer than EU/US specific coilovers,just due they using harder spring rate than EU/US counterparts

Have run HSD HR which are firmer than BC,but still not harsh for our roads,KW is in different league like BC,AST is something in middle between the KW and BC,they're OK for UK roads and great for track too

Comparing springs to coilovers,you shouldn't,both can be same and different in many ways

Thanks,Jura
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Originally Posted by jura11
As above Japan specific coilovers like HKS,Cusco or Tein are harder/firmer than EU/US specific coilovers,just due they using harder spring rate than EU/US counterparts

Have run HSD HR which are firmer than BC,but still not harsh for our roads,KW is in different league like BC,AST is something in middle between the KW and BC,they're OK for UK roads and great for track too

Comparing springs to coilovers,you shouldn't,both can be same and different in many ways

Thanks,Jura
thanks jura
appreciate the info
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Originally Posted by lofty35
thanks mate, will give that some thought. Are d2's any good?
Think I had these on my Evo(If there purple colour) had them on 2 weeks before being sold for a set of Tein coilovers!!! But then again the Tein on the Evo was o.k, but every set ive had on a scooby have been to hard!!!

Tough choice picking the right coilovers, dont envy you at all. Just glad I got my set-up already done when I bought the car!!!
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Recently bought and had fitted a used set of tein super street coilovers to my bug wagon and am really pleased with them, firm but not in a harsh way and better than the spec c shocks and springs I had previously. Not had any experience with any others though and make sure your not buying something thats past its best.
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You also got to take any other suspension mods you have into consideration, If you got thicker ARB, rear braces etc etc, then your car will be even stiffer Which is ok when your doing trackdays, but a overkill on your daily road car!!

My brother had on his STi:
Cusco coilovers with top mounts
Front and rear strut brace
Front and rear ARB (rear 24mm??)
Anti lift kit
Whiteline drop links
Chassis bracing
All uprated bushes etc

And the car would not move at all, you could feel every bump, and you know when it was to hard, when he got it mapped by Jolly Green Monster and he says that its the worst/hardest suspension he has ever experienced in a car! oh dear
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
You also got to take any other suspension mods you have into consideration, If you got thicker ARB, rear braces etc etc, then your car will be even stiffer Which is ok when your doing trackdays, but a overkill on your daily road car!!

My brother had on his STi:
Cusco coilovers with top mounts
Front and rear strut brace
Front and rear ARB (rear 24mm??)
Anti lift kit
Whiteline drop links
Chassis bracing
All uprated bushes etc

And the car would not move at all, you could feel every bump, and you know when it was to hard, when he got it mapped by Jolly Green Monster and he says that its the worst/hardest suspension he has ever experienced in a car! oh dear

ok cheers pal
only had the car 2 weeks think its pretty standard apart from front strut brace
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I've got s/h Tein Super Streets fitted, s/h from a breakers but admittedly near new. They were too firm with 18" wheels and I nearly took them off but changed back to 17s instead and they're great now.
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I have some Eibach Pro Street that need a refurb going cheap if your interested. CLASSIC FITMENT
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got some kw variant 3 clubsports being fitted to mine in a few weeks bought second hand but worth every penny
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My advice is to be very wary and make sure they're in great condition, I had a set of teins second hand that lasted less than 3K before they decoded they didn't want to play anymore, would have been better off buying new in the first place
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cheers will have a look at a few first.
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I hated my D2's and Tein on my Integra Type R way to hard and bone shaking!
I fell into the trap that my Tein springs where great and thought the coilovers would be the same and they really where worlds apart!

Think I'm going to try some HSD's Dualtech's on my Bug a few people I know run them on Imprezas and other cars seem to think there good and not too much £££££
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Originally Posted by timmy2take
I have some Eibach Pro Street that need a refurb going cheap if your interested. CLASSIC FITMENT
Had these on 2 of my scoobys now, by far the best coilovers for what I need!!
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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 10:27 PM
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Probably worth finding out which ones can be easily and reasonably refurbished if the worst was to happen if buying second hand.

Mick
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Just bought some used BC coilovers from Thwaites Developments and they seem fine, the fronts make a whooshing chirp noise over steep speed bumps (almost like chatter on a rally car) and the road noise through the tyres has doubled.

Think this is normal from what I've read..
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