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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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Hi i was just wondering if any ones had a race or a go with a gt4 at the lights because i have had my mates gt4 for the last few days until i get my wrx wagon mot and register over here and i think his gt4 which is standard is crazy and i am kinda wanting to buy one for some reason what do you lot think about the gt4 is it as good as a subaru or not ?
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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no way mate. forget the gt4 they have alot of problems,they have 240bhp but are quite slow. stick with a subaru anyday
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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no way mate. forget the gt4 they have alot of problems,they have 240bhp but are quite slow. stick with a subaru anyday
i one i have been drivering is 255bhp jap import and to be 100% honest i would say it is a lot faster then my subaru wrx wagon.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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no way mate. forget the gt4 they have alot of problems,they have 240bhp but are quite slow. stick with a subaru anyday
Typical Scooby owner's reply Mind you you'd get an inversely proportional reply on GT4OC.com

They're a great car mate, especially the ST205 - last generation. Can be run much more economically than a Scooby too. Not to mention they look infinitely better and are much rarer.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
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They're a great car mate, especially the ST205 - last generation. Can be run much more economically than a Scooby too. Not to mention they look infinitely better and are much rarer.
ya the one i have been pushing around is a st205 nice car to drive,coming from subaru owner.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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They have great drive chains and engines. You have not said which one, although I guess your talking about an St205 with 255bhp (which almost standard then.)

A major problem I found when test driving them, (ST185) was that it was way too heavy to be a decent rally bred road car.

Coming from a Pulsar I was very dissapointed in performance terms, however that was built to a lower standard.

If you want a bomb proof, fast-ish, 4x4 turbo that looks sleek not agresive, IMHO that these are good cars. The head on the ST205 is also claimed to be a master piece for what its worth.

Kam- all my 2 rupees worth of course.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by C 8HEP
no way mate. forget the gt4 they have alot of problems,they have 240bhp but are quite slow. stick with a subaru anyday
lot of problems??? ...the only 'consistent' problem i know of is the 'superstrut' suspension bushes on ST205's ...which perish around the 50K/5 year mark & cost about £600 (both sides) to fix! ...apart from that they're built like tanks!!! ...& thats their only real problem ...they're a fair bit heavier than a classic (about 200kg) ...kinda like compairing a WRX & a classic
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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For the record.. A lot of the Jap high BHP Supras run with GT4 (ST205) engines as they're one of the best around.

DazW is referring to the 'dreaded' figure-8 suspension parts on the front of the GT4 - A bit of a nightmare for the 50/60k vehicles but at least you know they're going to fail at that sort of point (think MAF's on 99/00 Scoobies and VANOS units on M3 EVO's).

Just one point I'd make to Kam; if the ST185 was such a lardy piece of crap how come it's still one of the best looking cars to win the WRC?

In case you haven't noticed I like GT4s
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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THe ST205 is the one i am thinking about
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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Played with 3 when I had my scooby which existed in various states of tune between 215bhp and 275bhp and I nailed them all. Only one gave me anything of a challenge but he still got skinned - they never impressed me TBH.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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ive owned a st205 wrc 300 bhp with a simple decat and filter,pissed all over my scoob.!
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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I had a run against one in my old UK Turbo PPP. Not a great deal in it over roads that weren't particularly twisty - I was a little faster but possibly I knew the roads better. Finally overtook it after a sharp bend leading onto a long straight but it took a little while to get past.

I've always liked the look of them but never had a chance to drive one.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jap2Scrap
Typical Scooby owner's reply Mind you you'd get an inversely proportional reply on GT4OC.com

They're a great car mate, especially the ST205 - last generation. Can be run much more economically than a Scooby too. Not to mention they look infinitely better and are much rarer.
well different specs are better looking and quicker. depends on ur taste. i wouldnt buy one to be economical. of course i am biast
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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I had a 1994 GT4 ST205 WRC with a chip, exhaust, and filter,and 18" Superleggeras. It would have anhilated my 04 WRX PPP. The Scooby is easier to drive fast, but give the GT4 ten tenths and it was far more rewarding to drive, felt more special, and was built to a better standard.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 12:13 AM
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nice motor but not to keen on it in red
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by slickrick
ive owned a st205 wrc 300 bhp with a simple decat and filter,pissed all over my scoob.!
How did you manage to race yourself in 2 cars like ?
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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never raced myself,but i owned the gt4 before the scoob and belive me it was faster.not just top end speed,it accelerated faster aswell.!
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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Must admit I was tempted by one myself before i got the scoob
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 01:48 AM
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im glad to hear alot of honesty..
LOOK at my name.. and look at what i have gone and bought..
this one in the website is MINE NOW. its got 18" OZ Superleggers on it now..
www.st205.net
I have had a 185 and distroyed a WRX and honestly i now kick alot of STIs etc.
not been beaten YET by a scoob.
the GT4 st205 is the ONE not the best looking as i think the 185 was, but far superior to it. check out my site and u will see all the mods. shes running 337 with the CAT in!!
getting a Downpipe and she will be even more fun any questions on GT4s please ask

it took me a while to get this as i saved up for a TYPE RA scoob. BUT this is the one for me.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 01:52 AM
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oh and my Fig 8s and Lower arms been done! as they are a pain!!!
also i have Cusco struts front back and lower brace. handling.. u should sit in it..
I have TRD Adjustable suspension with 4 settings
she looks much much better now though. different front bumper and wheels 18"
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 02:01 AM
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SAXO BOY.. your welcome to come down mate but u wont be smiling for long!!
just joikin fella. im a scooby lover always have been but driven the STI and raced it when i had the 185 (i got distroyed!) i have had 5 scoobs in this so faR! i had it a month!
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 01:36 AM
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anyone thinkin abt em get one..
but i now need to get wot i came here for a Type RA..
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
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