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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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Mods - please leave here til Thursday night. Getting my sus done on Friday and may opt for a q-shift too but not sure which.

Anyone care to tell me whats best for the bugeye MY02 WRX???

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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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Hiya Edcase.

Sorry i missed the Surrey Meet, didnt get round to showing you my Raly tech spoiler.

Anyway, there are 3 decent quickshifts out there. These being:

1. B+M quickshift (direct replacement & cheap, Mattel & Fulham both have this & feels great)

2. Subura Prodrive quickshift (very expensive + works differently to the B+M (Dr-Evil has this so he'll be able to answer any Q's) you can get this through TSL + many others.

3. The cheaper version of the B+M made by J W Racing, but is just as effective. (Depending on whether your a brand person). However, never tried this myself so would personally recommend the B+M or Prodrive.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 11:02 PM
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i thought all scoobys come fitted with q-shift from factory.
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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Hmmm, B&M sounds good. Silly question but I read rumours that they increase wear on the gearbox. Will using a non-Prodrive shift invalidate my gearbox warranty?

Will drop Alex / Fulham a mail...
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 11:05 AM
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I've got the BRD Quickshift its approx a further 25% less throw than the STI item which is in turn shorter than the Prodrive one.
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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TBMeech - I thought the BRD one was 30%(to 35%) shorter throw than the OE MY'00 shift, where as the Prodrive(or rather STi) QS is only 25% shorter than the OE MY'00.. not an extra 20% shorter... could just be a vicious rumour thou

Edcase,

MATTeL has the B&M QS fitted to his tank , er, MY'01, its definitely shorter than the Prodrive/STi offering and is less fiddly to fit. It is also a lot cheaper. TBH you won't notice that big a difference fitting the PD/STi QS to your WRX, I ran one on the WRX I had prior to the GX, and although it was shorter, the bugeyed models has a slightly shorter shift anyway as standard (so I was told, different to the pre '01). The only thing I would say in favour of the PD/STi offering, is that it feels less clunky/notchy than the B&M. But never the less, if it were me, I probably fit the B&M to a WRX, as makes the shifts that much shorter, which can't be a bad thing!

As for wear n tear, dunno, Paul @ TSL would be the best person to ask or at least one of them.

Hope that helps, Alex

PS. I stuck the STi QS on the GX as we plan to keep it for 3-5 yrs and trying to keep the whole car within warranty without a doubt!

[Edited by DrEvil - 1/23/2003 11:31:51 AM]
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 11:33 AM
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PS. the reason the PD/STi version costs more is because it is a) warrantied for 3yrs and b) the whole linkage, not just the stick.
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 11:37 AM
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Great, cheers Alex. Will ask Pauls opinion tomorrow when I'm there. How much is the Prodrive one as it's not listed on the TSL site?
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 11:49 AM
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Alex,

You could be right mate, If you are I stand corrected - anyway it feels a lot better than my old sti one which I sold
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 11:53 AM
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JWRacing one is adjustable, and is very good. In fact when Bob Rawle drove my car, he said that the change was very short, but good.
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 11:57 AM
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TBMeech - yeah, I've fiddled with a BRD shift, felt better than the STi one.

Oh, the TSL/B&M shift comes with an uprated **** too!
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 12:23 PM
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Yep a nice shiny **** engraved with the one & only "TSL"

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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 12:26 PM
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Nothing wrong with my ****....

Is it removeable / changeable the ****? If so is it the same thread diameter as the standard shaft?
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 12:31 PM
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I believe the shaft is designed to take the OE **** if necessary, so yes, threaded and the same diametre...

Nito does some night carbon gear **** btw.
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 04:33 PM
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So, as mentioned, does fitting a quick shift increase gear box wear?
I can't see why. Anyone know?
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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cor - where were you lot yesterday!

i asked about this and got now-where - spooky

sounds like the b+m is no real different to the jwracing one.

or would anyone beg to differ?

i was advised the jw version, and i ain't bothered about brand names, unless the quality is affected.

whats the price difference between the two? my car is a 93 wrx btw.

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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 05:40 PM
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Weava -

JWRacing = 117.50 for MY93,
B&M = 158 including a billet gearknob.

I'm probs gonna get the B&M as I'm at TSL tomorrow so get it fitted while I wait etc.

cheers

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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 05:41 PM
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Only ever driven my own MY02 WRX and had a Prodrive QS kit fitted from new.

All I can say is it's the best gearchange of the 12+ cars I've owned - smooth, quick and sweet. A joy to change gear! Makes the other cars I drive in the family feel like real puddin' stirrers.

Whichever you go for I think you will be pleased with the driving results.
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 05:51 PM
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Got the B&M on me MY97 & it is extreme in terms of how much movement it takes 2 change gear as in just a twitch & i changed gear which is wot i wanted & it feels boss & looks gr8 when combined with nitosport **** & surround
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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BTW wotever u do dont fit the B&M **** that comes with it now that is scary
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 06:13 PM
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Will be nice to be able to shift quickly thru corners
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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STOP......ed i know you said you had the bug but WOW mate, by the time i see you next your scooby will be full on rally spec!!!!!!!
COOOOOOL
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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Bugeye...SHHHHHHhhhh!!! The missus might hear! But then, its gonna get hard disguising new parts when I move onto the bodywork

And can someone tell me how I can disguise a decat?

You gonna be at the next Surrey meet if I don't c u b4?
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 09:56 PM
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Edcase

What exhaust you going for?? I got a HKS Hiper before Xmas & my neighbours love it (well i wish )

You decided on which rear spoiler to get??
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 10:23 PM
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Still undecided about the exhaust. To be honest, I'm a bit shaken up about lofi and his warranty woes with a non-standard centre and rear, so I'm waiting to see the result / trying to decide whether to trash the warranty. I'm not one of these 'endless quest for power' types, but I just dont think PPP will be enough, and I don't like piggyback chips.

Spoiler....well, that's a surprise

You at the next Surrey meet?
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Old Jan 23, 2003 | 10:56 PM
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AFAIK the Prodrive one is £210.

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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 09:57 AM
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Yep i'll be at the next meet. Was up at the other halfs parent last time.

Well i got the HKS Hiper with a decat centre & backbox & havnt had any problems with warranty. Had a service & nothing was said. Guiess it depends who you take it to as well.

Would you be interested in a set of HID components for your morrette?? Im trying to get a group buy together at the mo.

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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 01:35 PM
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Whats the deal on the HID kit then??
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 02:15 PM
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Stu

No deal yet, just want to see if there are any interests before i make some enquiries.

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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 04:46 PM
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so in terms of quality and funcionality there is no real difference between the jk and the b+w?

is one quicker than the other.

thanks for the reply edcase btw

weava
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