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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 06:42 PM
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The situation was handled poorly by Birmingham because, as already stated, they were afraid of being accused of Islamophobia, and that made them lose sight of their obligations to actually run schools properly
As I understand it, certainly with respect to the academies (the epicentre of the whole scandal) they, Birmingham, were not responsible for running the schools

That job fell to central government. And central government operated a simple tick box exercise when it came to governance - I.e "who cares as long as the exam results look good" a very narrow remit

Which is why the schools got "outstanding" from offsted one week, the when this all came to the surface went to "special measures" in short order

And the "outstanding" offsted report gave the schools "cover" to continue an overtly Islamic agenda

That is what the two reports reveal, which is in part why Gove was sacked

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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
As I understand it, certainly with respect to the academies (the epicentre of the whole scandal) they, Birmingham, were not responsible for running the schools

That job fell to central government. And central government operated a simple tick box exercise when it came to governance - I.e "who cares as long as the exam results look good" a very narrow remit

Which is why the schools got "outstanding" from offsted one week, the when this all came to the surface went to "special measures" in short order

That is what the two reports reveal, which is in part why Gove was sacked
You're conflating several different issues there. Firstly, at the time of the "takeover", the school was the responsibility of Birmingham city council as this article makes clear http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/to...not-academies/

It was actually when central Gvmt took responsibility that the report was commissioned by Gove. The thouroughness of school inspections (and the move to no notice inspections) is the subject of another thread.

As to Gove being sacked it may well be your intrepetation but not mine. I feel that the "noise" surrounding Gove (and for that matter Paterson) as they opposed leftists entrenched dogmas was too much for spineless Cameron to take, and so he wanted a touchy feely run up to the election with a load of no mark women to try and make it look like he knew what he was doing. But again, that's another thread
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
You're conflating several different issues there. Firstly, at the time of the "takeover", the school was the responsibility of Birmingham city council as this article makes clear http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/to...not-academies/

It was actually when central Gvmt took responsibility that the report was commissioned by Gove. The thouroughness of school inspections (and the move to no notice inspections) is the subject of another thread.

As to Gove being sacked it may well be your intrepetation but not mine. I feel that the "noise" surrounding Gove (and for that matter Paterson) as they opposed leftists entrenched dogmas was too much for spineless Cameron to take, and so he wanted a touchy feely run up to the election with a load of no mark women to try and make it look like he knew what he was doing. But again, that's another thread
Sure, the blog post is by Toby Young - no conflict of interest there then
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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Sure, the blog post is by Toby Young - no conflict of interest there then
*sigh* you're getting as bad as f1_fan - never believing anything in the papers.

If you have contradicting evidence then lets see it
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
*sigh* you're getting as bad as f1_fan
Ouch - now that's a low blow

Seriously though, why on earth are you so obsessed with this?
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
*sigh* you're getting as bad as f1_fan - never believing anything in the papers.

If you have contradicting evidence then lets see it
<sigh> and I simply post articles from the Guardian to "prove" my point

that is going to get us far!!

after all we all pick and chose references to back up our own prejudices

I am sure Birmingham council have not covered themselves in glory here - but as I said in my view the buck stopped with Gove - and the Academy/Free schools agenda, with a light touch regulation

we see it all over the place - no need to have qualified teachers, no need to teach the national curriculum

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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 11:06 AM
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Some facts on muslim expansion in UK.

Number Mosques 1961 - 7 2011 - 1500
Number of muslims 1961 -50,000 2011 - 2,869,000

If we extrapolate

Mosques 2021- circa 3,000
muslims 2021- circa 6,000,000
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RobJenks
Some facts on muslim expansion in UK.

Number Mosques 1961 - 7 2011 - 1500
Number of muslims 1961 -50,000 2011 - 2,869,000

If we extrapolate

Mosques 2021- circa 3,000
muslims 2021- circa 6,000,000
What's that got to do with fundamentalism and extremism?

Oh yes I forgot all Muslims are bad news aren't they?
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RobJenks
Some facts on muslim expansion in UK.

Number Mosques 1961 - 7 2011 - 1500
Number of muslims 1961 -50,000 2011 - 2,869,000

If we extrapolate

Mosques 2021- circa 3,000
muslims 2021- circa 6,000,000
Mashallah

I think if more Muslims shared Mosques there would be no need to build more. In fact there is no need for any more at all. They are only ever full on Eid and Friday prayers. All the other time you'll have the front couple of rows if you are lucky.

In fact Mosques are the only place where Muslims can que!

I'm not too keen on my local mosque. They have rubber feet hurting mats and no jihad manuals. If i went to mosque i'd want more jihad stuff. Fed up of this wishy washy lefty pc muslamicism.
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
I'm not too keen on my local mosque. They have rubber feet hurting mats and no jihad manuals. If i went to mosque i'd want more jihad stuff. Fed up of this wishy washy lefty pc muslamicism.
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
NO! So **** OFF!

Please bare in mind for Muslims this is the holy month of Ramadhan and we should be nice and fluffy. Good job i'm not fekin religious then isn't it you born again religious ****! Now STOP forcing me to sin! Even Jesus finds you annoying!

I'm not going to do whatever you asked. See it as an act of shying away. It'll be a good massage for your ego.

The bottom line is that all this crap has stemmed from some Christian Evangelical God bothering type ********. Nothing credible can come from these types.
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 08:55 AM
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Maz
It's just that I noticed Shaid has a habit of throwing 'hate speech' around and wondered if he or anyone else finds it hypocritical.
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
It's just that I noticed Shaid has a habit of throwing 'hate speech' around and wondered if he or anyone else finds it hypocritical.

'Hate speech'



I'll answer it for you.

I find it very hypocritical. On one hand its be nice to everyone and on the other it's a big load of 'your momma'... Just blending in really. Aren't most of your chums hypocritical?
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
'Hate speech'



I'll answer it for you.

I find it very hypocritical. On one hand its be nice to everyone and on the other it's a big load of 'your momma'... Just blending in really. Aren't most of your chums hypocritical?
Who do you mean when you say "most of your chums"?
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Old Jan 27, 2015 | 07:46 PM
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A muslim takeover will happen in the UK one day if our government keep acting the way they do now.
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Old Jan 28, 2015 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyland
A muslim takeover will happen in the UK one day if our government keep acting the way they do now.
Inshallah
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Old Jan 28, 2015 | 12:39 PM
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Masha Allah
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Old Jan 28, 2015 | 02:31 PM
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hahaha EDL LOL
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