New UK Subaru Sti - Due April/May
21 April 2014, 10:25 PM
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25 April 2014, 05:05 PM
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I was lucky to touch feel and smell one of the new WRX STi's recently. I have attached some of the images here, you can view more if you want on our Facebook page. I know I am biased, but it looks sssooo much better in the flesh than in photographs.
Sorry about the dodgy quality in the pics, they were taken with a camera phone.
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Sorry about the dodgy quality in the pics, they were taken with a camera phone.
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25 April 2014, 09:39 PM
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I would get one in a hart beat I think they are one of the best looking cars I have seen and definitely the best looking Subaru IMO. There even cheap enough to factor in a engine rebuild IF IF it needs one which it won't because that have made a bullet proof engine this time. I can feel it in my bones .
26 April 2014, 12:17 AM
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26 April 2014, 10:19 AM
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I would get one in a hart beat I think they are one of the best looking cars I have seen and definitely the best looking Subaru IMO. There even cheap enough to factor in a engine rebuild IF IF it needs one which it won't because that have made a bullet proof engine this time. I can feel it in my bones .
26 April 2014, 10:41 AM
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When it comes to warranty claims, to quote my service manager "Subaru are like no other manufacturer, we have 5 other franchises here (Alfa Romeo, Fiat, Chrysler, Jeep, Citroen), and none are as easy to deal with as Subaru (IM), we never have problems or arguments over warranty claims". Infact, we recently dealt with a Legacy that was over 2 years and 20,000 miles out of warranty, yet they paid for a large job to be done.
26 April 2014, 10:59 AM
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What would you know your only the one that works there if its o.k with you I will just listen to the rumours rather than the people that have the facts lol. And even if the engine is the same block as the old chocolate 2.5 where every single one blew up
it doesn't mean this new one would do it .
it doesn't mean this new one would do it .
26 April 2014, 11:00 AM
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Article I read suggested sub £40k and DSG would be an option. I quite like it and the flared arches make a subtle difference to millions of other Golfs on the road.
26 April 2014, 11:01 AM
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What would you know your only the one that works there if its o.k with you I will just listen to the rumours rather than the people that have the facts lol. And even if the engine is the same block as the old chocolate 2.5 where every single one blew up it doesn't mean this new one would do it .
it doesn't mean this new one would do it .
26 April 2014, 11:04 AM
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No need to bow 
It's still pie in the sky yet so as Ellie would say anything could happen. Golfs are great cars but so boring and never obtain the performance you know they are capable of whereas this if built for the right money would be a nice change and about time. The standard Golf R looks blingy and boring but I really like this and with the lemon highlights a bit like the sti originally promised although can't remember if that was yellow or lime green?
It's still pie in the sky yet so as Ellie would say anything could happen. Golfs are great cars but so boring and never obtain the performance you know they are capable of whereas this if built for the right money would be a nice change and about time. The standard Golf R looks blingy and boring but I really like this and with the lemon highlights a bit like the sti originally promised although can't remember if that was yellow or lime green?
26 April 2014, 12:58 PM
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I'm sure I will be shot down in flames for this comment, but in the last 2 years, I have had over 250 WRX STi 2.5's through the doors here at Mangoletsi, and only 1 has had a problem with the engine, and that was all sorted under warranty without any arguing etc. We have had standard cars, modified cars, very heavily modified cars, and only 1 engine problem.
When it comes to warranty claims, to quote my service manager "Subaru are like no other manufacturer, we have 5 other franchises here (Alfa Romeo, Fiat, Chrysler, Jeep, Citroen), and none are as easy to deal with as Subaru (IM), we never have problems or arguments over warranty claims". Infact, we recently dealt with a Legacy that was over 2 years and 20,000 miles out of warranty, yet they paid for a large job to be done.
When it comes to warranty claims, to quote my service manager "Subaru are like no other manufacturer, we have 5 other franchises here (Alfa Romeo, Fiat, Chrysler, Jeep, Citroen), and none are as easy to deal with as Subaru (IM), we never have problems or arguments over warranty claims". Infact, we recently dealt with a Legacy that was over 2 years and 20,000 miles out of warranty, yet they paid for a large job to be done.
But the UK 2.5 struggled at anything over 330BHP even with our good fuel. although independent tuners got reliable 350bhp!!!!!
2.5ltr and Subaru Ended up bad reputation = poor sales and problems. Things get tight. UK blamed car owners for all it woes. I know 4 enthusiast who owned completely un modded bar dealer fitments and on 2-5 scooby. But all had to fight tooth and nail. Two were on second claim asked if they could use proper Cosworth parts and they'd pick up difference cost. REFUSED. So not only there is a chance of third time and another months but no one will buy your car due to chocolate pistons.
If you remapped it or put better pistons to safe guard it you lost warranty. Bugger if you do or don't.
The way it was handled can be seen in the sales figures below.
Then the YEN exchange took price from £28k to £34k 2011/2 the whole of the Uk sold under 40 STis this took to car into completely different price bracket.
Total Sti this year is 250 units for UK. So your dealership in USA has more clout than the whole of UK market.
Just because it's all roses in the USA doesn't mean it is here.
Tony. IIRC IMHO
Btw I'm one of the few that bought a £34k 2011 saloon but they sold of the remainder in 2012 for £28k. Really help secondhand prices.
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26 April 2014, 01:26 PM
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Yeah I agree, but there is a higher chance with a 2.5 than most engines, the Subaru EJ20 included. What gets me is the dumb advice, here is a typical exchange:
Newbie: Hi, first time on a Scoob forum, thinking of buying an 08 STI hatch, seen a good one localy for £9K, anything I should watch out for?
Poster A: Cracking cars mate, get it bought.
Newbie: Cheers mate, have wanted a Scoob since I was a teenager. Will get down there and have a test drive.
Poster B: Put some pics up when you get it, they are awesome cars
Newbie: Will do mate, thanks
Me: Er... that's a 2.5 engine and some of them do have issues, see the thread at the top of the General section.
Poster A: Oh FFS there's only a few gone bang and then only when they were modded, stop trying to put him off.
Poster B: Yeah and anyway just keep £3K to one side so if it goes bang you can get the engine forged.
Me: If he had a spare £3K would he be lookig at a £9K car? And anyway if he buys the car for £9K and the engine goes he has spent £12K and yet still only has a car worth £9K
Posters A and B: **** off and find another forum if you don't like Subarus, there's nothing wrong with them.. all marques have engines that blow up... blah blah blah..... lots more crap
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and so on!
Newbie: Hi, first time on a Scoob forum, thinking of buying an 08 STI hatch, seen a good one localy for £9K, anything I should watch out for?
Poster A: Cracking cars mate, get it bought.
Newbie: Cheers mate, have wanted a Scoob since I was a teenager. Will get down there and have a test drive.
Poster B: Put some pics up when you get it, they are awesome cars
Newbie: Will do mate, thanks
Me: Er... that's a 2.5 engine and some of them do have issues, see the thread at the top of the General section.
Poster A: Oh FFS there's only a few gone bang and then only when they were modded, stop trying to put him off.
Poster B: Yeah and anyway just keep £3K to one side so if it goes bang you can get the engine forged.
Me: If he had a spare £3K would he be lookig at a £9K car? And anyway if he buys the car for £9K and the engine goes he has spent £12K and yet still only has a car worth £9K
Posters A and B: **** off and find another forum if you don't like Subarus, there's nothing wrong with them.. all marques have engines that blow up... blah blah blah..... lots more crap
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and so on!
26 April 2014, 03:19 PM
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In 2004/5 Sti sales were approx 5,000. Then a Quadruple whammy Petrol price, Car tax on emissions. And UK only getting a Hatchback and no sedan. Lastly the 2.5ltr hawk head gasket and 2.5ltr hatch ring land failures. And lots claims rejected. The old 2.0ltr engine you could run 500hp without any internal changes. But the UK 2.5 struggled at anything over 330BHP even with our good fuel. although independent tuners got reliable 350bhp!!!!! 2.5ltr and Subaru Ended up bad reputation = poor sales and problems. Things get tight. UK blamed car owners for all it woes. I know 4 enthusiast who owned completely un modded bar dealer fitments and on 2-5 scooby. But all had to fight tooth and nail. Two were on second claim asked if they could use proper Cosworth parts and they'd pick up difference cost. REFUSED. So not only there is a chance of third time and another months but no one will buy your car due to chocolate pistons. If you remapped it or put better pistons to safe guard it you lost warranty. Bugger if you do or don't. The way it was handled can be seen in the sales figures below. Then the YEN exchange took price from £28k to £34k 2011/2 the whole of the Uk sold under 40 STis this took to car into completely different price bracket. Total Sti this year is 250 units for UK. So your dealership in USA has more clout than the whole of UK market. Just because it's all roses in the USA doesn't mean it is here. Tony. IIRC IMHO Btw I'm one of the few that bought a £34k 2011 saloon but they sold of the remainder in 2012 for £28k. Really help secondhand prices.
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26 April 2014, 04:15 PM
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In 2004/5 Sti sales were approx 5,000. Then a Quadruple whammy Petrol price, Car tax on emissions. And UK only getting a Hatchback and no sedan. Lastly the 2.5ltr hawk head gasket and 2.5ltr hatch ring land failures. And lots claims rejected. The old 2.0ltr engine you could run 500hp without any internal changes.
But the UK 2.5 struggled at anything over 330BHP even with our good fuel. although independent tuners got reliable 350bhp!!!!!
2.5ltr and Subaru Ended up bad reputation = poor sales and problems. Things get tight. UK blamed car owners for all it woes. I know 4 enthusiast who owned completely un modded bar dealer fitments and on 2-5 scooby. But all had to fight tooth and nail. Two were on second claim asked if they could use proper Cosworth parts and they'd pick up difference cost. REFUSED. So not only there is a chance of third time and another months but no one will buy your car due to chocolate pistons.
If you remapped it or put better pistons to safe guard it you lost warranty. Bugger if you do or don't.
The way it was handled can be seen in the sales figures below.
Then the YEN exchange took price from £28k to £34k 2011/2 the whole of the Uk sold under 40 STis this took to car into completely different price bracket.
Total Sti this year is 250 units for UK. So your dealership in USA has more clout than the whole of UK market.
Just because it's all roses in the USA doesn't mean it is here.
Tony. IIRC IMHO
Btw I'm one of the few that bought a £34k 2011 saloon but they sold of the remainder in 2012 for £28k. Really help secondhand prices.
But the UK 2.5 struggled at anything over 330BHP even with our good fuel. although independent tuners got reliable 350bhp!!!!!
2.5ltr and Subaru Ended up bad reputation = poor sales and problems. Things get tight. UK blamed car owners for all it woes. I know 4 enthusiast who owned completely un modded bar dealer fitments and on 2-5 scooby. But all had to fight tooth and nail. Two were on second claim asked if they could use proper Cosworth parts and they'd pick up difference cost. REFUSED. So not only there is a chance of third time and another months but no one will buy your car due to chocolate pistons.
If you remapped it or put better pistons to safe guard it you lost warranty. Bugger if you do or don't.
The way it was handled can be seen in the sales figures below.
Then the YEN exchange took price from £28k to £34k 2011/2 the whole of the Uk sold under 40 STis this took to car into completely different price bracket.
Total Sti this year is 250 units for UK. So your dealership in USA has more clout than the whole of UK market.
Just because it's all roses in the USA doesn't mean it is here.
Tony. IIRC IMHO
Btw I'm one of the few that bought a £34k 2011 saloon but they sold of the remainder in 2012 for £28k. Really help secondhand prices.
26 April 2014, 05:13 PM
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Hope the carpets are better quality. My MY11 has a hole worn on side of gearbox.
Just been looking under rear and it is going to have to go in for rust. Already had front wing done.
My Terzo carpets are fine at 190k!
Just been looking under rear and it is going to have to go in for rust. Already had front wing done.
My Terzo carpets are fine at 190k!
27 April 2014, 12:00 PM
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Mangoletsi are a UK Dealer
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27 April 2014, 12:12 PM
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Yes I think the new car will sell and a fair price
. If it had the G4 DIT engine one would be on my drive now. I'll wait till 2015
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Just read an article about the new STI.
This is the verdict
Our first drive of the STI has us grinning ear-to-ear for its Tarzan-like grip in the road, its accessible, useable engine punch and it’s accurate steering. Its chassis is so well balanced and the more and more you drive it, the more it melts into you and you start to realise just how good this car is. It’s a supreme point-to-point performer and, based in its brisk, effortless pace, would be a four-star car.
Yet as a complete package, the dated cabin lets its down. There are also so serious holes in the spec, such as no dual-clutch transmission option, while the engine – made of aluminium and loaded with character – has missed out on tech like the BRZ’s direct injection. For that, the STI will easily be overlooked in the sales war – but for many, it’s the return of the messiah.
This part for me makes me really get fed up of model road testers
Serious holes in the spec, such as no dual-clutch transmission option.
FFS.
I like the way Subaru are keeping the STI manual.
This WILL IMO be preferred by their customer base.
This is the verdict
Our first drive of the STI has us grinning ear-to-ear for its Tarzan-like grip in the road, its accessible, useable engine punch and it’s accurate steering. Its chassis is so well balanced and the more and more you drive it, the more it melts into you and you start to realise just how good this car is. It’s a supreme point-to-point performer and, based in its brisk, effortless pace, would be a four-star car.
Yet as a complete package, the dated cabin lets its down. There are also so serious holes in the spec, such as no dual-clutch transmission option, while the engine – made of aluminium and loaded with character – has missed out on tech like the BRZ’s direct injection. For that, the STI will easily be overlooked in the sales war – but for many, it’s the return of the messiah.
This part for me makes me really get fed up of model road testers
Serious holes in the spec, such as no dual-clutch transmission option.
FFS.
I like the way Subaru are keeping the STI manual.
This WILL IMO be preferred by their customer base.
28 April 2014, 09:52 PM
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1996, the MY97 STi came out of the factory with 280ps
2002, the S202 came out of the factory with 320ps
2014, the new 2.5ltr STI comes out of the factory with 305ps.... oh, so cars that were built 12 years previous have more power??!!
Lets look at BMW.
E36 M3, 276bhp, evo version 320bhp
Replaced by the E46, 340bhp
Replaced by the latest generation, 400bhp.
VW, latest golf R, 300ps
Seat, latest Leon, 280ps
Ford Focus RS, 300ps
10 years back, those cars had 80bhp less.
Subaru have not improved the overall car enough in its latest form for it to be deemed "better" than what it was, its old hat technology in a new frock, and its one of the reasons ive moved on, unless Subaru can produce a great car, they just wont sell them, the marque as it stands in the UK is dead, any company that sells 20 new cars a month isnt going anywhere.
High fuel costs, high servicing costs, high road tax, stupid waiting times for basic parts because IM dont hold them in stock, reliability issues, depreciation etc etc etc, it all adds up.
The fact is, Subaru have been passed by in the UK (and elsewhere), they need the latest tech not the crap thats been given out in a car that has worse quality plastics than a dacia fitted to it.
Tony