Maybe you could take your own advice with Android

 

Anyhow back to the subject of this post.

Anyone buying a Mac Pro, they're a lot cheaper than I thought they'd be. Maybe if my Facebook stock keeps going up I'll get one myself, thinking about buying a display anyhow.

 

If Android did great things I'd praise them and I have in the past, but it's been ages since anything good has come out of Google's mobile division.

 

Let's be honest here, no one is doing anything exciting in the mobile phone market atm.

 

Apple just introduced the first 64bit mobile device, not only that they made it simple for developers to release 64bit versions of their software.

Some on here will try to make that seem like nothing, but everyone will try to follow suit, bloody shame that it's not going to be simple for Android developers.

 

No, it is free to download from the Mac App Store. The installer is a full installer, so it will allow you to perform a complete fresh install of 10.9, or upgrade certain earlier OS versions (From what I have read, if you have 10.7 or 10.8 it will upgrade them off the bat. If you're on 10.6, you need to go to 10.7 or 10.8 and then upgrade to 10.9)

 

It all centres around the fundamental difference between the 2 platforms at the end of the day. Ios is used on quite a small range of devices with a smaller range of chipsets, even more so with the 64bit architecture.

Comparatively Android is available on such a vast range of devices it's unreal and to port apps over onto a range of 64 bit chips is going to be time consuming/difficult.

 

Getting back to the point, Apple have done nothing new here. I cite Solaris and StarOffice as 'previously paid for now free' OSs and productivity suites.

 

Have a read up, there's far more to it than the diversity of the devices, which is it's own problem. Anyhow, Kudos to Apple.

 

Hands up anyone previously paid for those two, hands up anyone who's using either of those two. Come on Beef, that's a bit desperate.

 

Irrelevant. You claimed that apple had done something new. I've shown this isn't the case, and that someone else did it a long time ago.

Apple aren't the innovators you hold them up to be - they are superb at modifying existing ideas and bringing them to the mass market, and they have come up with some excellent original ideas, but not nearly as many as you try and claim credit for on their behalf.

 

I'll make the point again, why do we need this thread at all? Are we really to believe that one of the most media-savvy and self-promoting companies in modern history won't as a matter of course be contacting each and every one of the users or owners of the devices concerned to inform them of these updates, and will in fact more than likely do so multiple times over the coming months, and by every communication method at their disposal? Like &$"* they're not going to do that!

This thread is nothing more than shameless brand-plugging, and the OP should be forced to pay a trader member's fee if he wants to carry on posting this kind of cr@p.




Rant over

 

Been said, many times Mark

 

I said Appke had changed the market and they have, not charging for something could never be considered an innovation, your two examples had zero impact, do you believe Apple's decision will have no effect? Think about it, Google don't charge for their OS, they make money charging for your usage data, Apple don't charge for their OS, they make good money from Hardware, where does this leave Microsoft?

I'm still astonished you see no innovation at Apple, it's an extreme form of denial.

 

The best way to make it go away is to stop responding.

 

Maybe this will help you all to understand.

http://www.wired.com/business/2013/1...nds-paid-oses/

 

I never said there was no innovation at Apple - I said they are not the innovators yuppy make them out to be. Their strength, as I repeat, is to modify existing ideas and sell them to the masses.

You praise Apple as if they're the ones coming up with the idea. They aren't - they're making it successful, sure, but that's a marketing achievement, not a technical one.

That article has the word 'desktop' in the first sentence. You have a blind spot about the size and importance of the server market, especially in the enterprise. Desktop OSs have had free options for decades, this isn't new.

 

Now that article explains your point far better. 'Cus it's quite easy to forget that although you buy a PC with windows, somebody still pays for a windows licence at some point. Either the end user or the manufacturer of the device.

Comparatively Apple used to make money from the upgrades to the OS, by making Mavericks free there putting an end to that line of income. Now whether that constitutes innovation i'm not sure because Windows and OSX operate on a different platform model.

 

You can say that about anything, car, that's just a horse and cart with an engine, engine you say, that's just a water wheel that uses petrol, water wheel, that's just a wheel that uses water, wheel you say, that's just a round stone with a hole in the middle. See how silly you sound.

 

So you're admitting outright that the only reason you start these threads is to get a rise out of people you know have no interest in the subject?

My god, what a sad and empty life you must lead

 

Have you seen my first comment? If you thought otherwise then you must be drunk. Some people watch X-Factor, I post a one word thread and reel them in. Along the way I post educational material, I see it as a service.

Also, have a think about what you're doing, you're posting to threads started by a known Anti-Apple baiter when you have no interest in the subject. That scores way higher on the sad scale.

 

I've responded to just one of your threads, out of the many dozens if not hundreds of similar ones that you inflict on this message-board, and pointed out its complete lack of purpose, mostly because it was a particularly glaring example. That doesn't even rank close to the same scale of existential vacuousness as actually starting those threads in the first place.

 

You're still doing it? Try to stay on topic, are you enjoying the new updates? Bought any of the new products?

 

may have already been said but I got a free upgrade to windows 8 from windows 7. that was a while ago

 

From Microsoft? Did it involve exposing yourself on the internet?

 

it was from Microsofts website so I guess yes it was. Laptop was a Lenovo.
Thought the internet was meant for exposure

 

When Apple start giving away free OS's to people not buying their machines then, maybe we will see an end to charging for an OS, until then, while you can only get the OS with a APPLE machine that is overpriced when it's only amazing feature is it's OS, the OS is not free.

 

Cool, send me a link I'll grab a copy, still using 7 here as I don't have the cash for an update.

 

You should tell that to Wired, they love being told they're wrong, maybe they'll offer you a job.

 

They always do a limited time offer of a free upgrade when they first release an OS. I remember it when it happened.