Thanks Martin.

I have to admit that yes it is a pretty fooking awesome car, but it is mine after all.

Like I said earlier nothing will be happening until next year with the car, perhaps before the major work starts on the car I should get up to Leominster and take it for a drive and see how I feel about it then.

I was there today and did think about taking it out for a quick blast but got chatting, and before I knew what time it was I had to leave before the sun went down. They all turn funny up there when the sun sets.

 

I'm a little shocked that this is for sale already, especially that it's a fine example.

Escort Cosworth is an amazing car, but to bring it up to today's standards, it'll need some money spent on it, unless you want a standard, concourse one? If not, you'll be plowing ££££'s into keeping it rust free, and with you having someone doing all your car work, it'll soon become an un-used money pit. You'd need it in a heated bubble to keep it safe. I can't see you enjoying a Cosworth tbh.

Evo is a side step considering you have a rare example scooby with the power/brakes etc being just as good>better.

Personally, I think you've gone the wrong way about it, bought a car and tucked it away straight and started spending on it instantly, so it almost feels like it's your Spec C sat there, costing loads, not getting used. You just need to get out and enjoy it straight, especially with the problems you had, the bug will be washed out of you.

I'd go pick it up and enjoy it as it is. The car doesn't need to be a money pit.

 

^

 

I agree with above plus if it's under sealed has a good wax thats all the car will need then just keep it washed and jet washed ( to get salt out of hard to get places )

That's part of the fun keeping it clean, waxed and on top of things, no fun if you wrap it in cotton wool as you will be afraid of using it and getting the next little mark on it , as for the engine, service and keep on top of little things and it should be ok

Mine was only going to be a weekend car but have now found myself using it to go to work at least 3 times a week lol

 

Interesting points you've made Geraint which have given me some food for thought.

My aim with the S202 as it would be with any other car I own after the Spec C is to keep it as standard as possible, and where modifications are done to use manufacturers parts.

Given that the service history is all in Japanese so I'm not 100% on what has been done previously so I thought it prudent to get it fully serviced first. Then there's the concerns I have over the JDM map and the ageing fuel pump, so to my mind they need to be done before I feel confident in really using the engine to it's fullest capabilities.

All the rest can really wait I suppose, but with the exception of the SuperPro bush kit all the other items aren't really that much work so they may as well be done sooner rather than later.

The car definitely requires underselling before I'd even consider using it on our roads in the winter months.

As for money pits, I think that could be said of all performance cars unless like you say they're put aside and put into a bubble.

 

G talks like Grasshopper he has an insight worth taking note of

 

All the young ones are now wonder who the hell Grasshopper is lol

 

I was just about to ask that lol

 

I'm always around RS/Cosworths. My father had a 400Hp Escort Cosworth, S1 & S2 Rs Turbo, a close friend had a S2 Rs Turbo, who is now building a complete group A Spec Sierra 3dr Cosworth currently, my brother had a S1 Rs Turbo, and my cousin has a Sierra 4x4 Cosworth currently, running nearly full group A spec engine.

Each one has had the Ford rust attack hurdles to tackle. Amazing cars, but they carry a heavy price tag and a high maintenance cost.

 

It as a tv series called Kung Foo

 

I won't say who the old master is then...

 

My Sierra rusted on the arches only 4-5 years from new lol

 

If I had the funds available them it would have to be a 3 door Sierra Cosworth RS500 for me, I know of and regularly see a 'minter' of an RS500.

Or a nice Audi Quattro...

 

The RS500 is the absolute **** of Cosworth. 8 injectors, massive T4 turbo and that extra lip on the boot lid, stunning.

But 50-60K for one...they definitely seek Ford geeks to pay that sort of tag.

Bearing in mind a Y reg Ferrari 360 mondena is only £32K these days.

 

That's part of the charm I suppose, something akin to classic Impreza models although at least they've got the decency to hang the process out a little longer.

The good thing about Ford RS models is how well they hold onto and increase in value.

How I wish I bought some Escort RS 2000 's and Harriers and stuck them in a barn back in the day.

 

My brain is rattling reading this thread ha ha

 

As is mine Glenn.

 

Well you didn't keep that quiet for long then did you?!

I was a bit taken aback we you said the the other day about possibly selling, but understand exactly where you're coming from.

As said before, I've been battling getting rid of mine for the last probably 2years, struggling to justify the expenditure and upkeep of a 16 year old car. I came very close this year to letting her go, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. Today for instance, I had barely looked at the car for the last 5 or 6 weeks, I needed to move it to get one of the bikes out of my garage, fired it up no issues, and was in love with the burble once again, went for a quick blast on the upper chapel roads and, the thought of getting rid would make me cry!

I suppose with the s202 you haven't really had chance to 'bond' with the car if that makes sense, you haven't driven it in anger(and I completely understand why) , and have barely seen the car, so it's natural I think that you are having second thoughts about it.

Get your mate to finish what you have planned, try it out in the spring properly, after which I'm sure you'll know if the car is really what you want or you want a change. Either way, whatever you end up doing, I can't see your gonna loose any coin on it due to its rarity, and im sure you'd get what you want for it.

I m not gonna lie, an old school Quattro would be a beaut of a car, and if I was in your position, I know I'd be tempted.

Catch you soon anyway

R

 

On the bus off the bus... I don't know Ty... drive it for a bit and see how you feel!!

 

Cheers Rob, you are correct of course I haven't driven the car other than to bring it back from Yorkshire and even then I didn't 'give it the beans'.

At the moment it is just a lump of metal to me, there is no emotional attachment as you have with your car, and what you put up the exhaust I cannot divulge on here due to decency laws.

Who knows when it's ready and I can enjoy it fully then things might well change, but until that time I cannot really see my point of view changing drastically.

If I do get a Quattro then I don't want you calling me Gene Hunt or any other similar names either...

 

FIRE UP THE QUATTRO!!

 

I think Ty needs to spend the rest of the week looking at adult material on the internet

 

I'd love one Rob.

Done that, it led to an abnormally large arm.

 

classic

 

Try before you buy Tyron, 80's classics tend to drive like errr 80's classics.

Fall in love with the car not the dream


I've had 3 Cosworths, great cars but dated now IMO.

Ownership WILL involve spending money and time under the bonnet.


Think very carefully before making the next move

 

I totally get where you're coming from Kev, I don't want to jump from the frying pan into the fire so to speak.

I agree that buying cars due to nostalgia only is a road to ruin, they aren't as comfortable or fast as their modern equivalents and the maintenance costs will be higher.

The Quattro and RS Cosworth cars are more of a dream unless you can pick up the right car at an exceptional price, but with less cars available the chances are you'll end up with a pup.

Food for thought that's for sure.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escor...item19e23a930b
go on ty you know you want it lol

 

You can sum it up by saying "it's a bloody minefield"

 

That gets the juices flowing, just need that lotto win

 

£50K-60K for a RS500??? Thats a mint low mileage one, can pay £30k-ish one with about average miles!!

Actually know a RS collector who has 3(moonstone, white, black) all under covers!! would love to get some pics to put up, but they dont come out(often)!!