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Old 16 June 2013, 02:24 PM
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Spoke to Francis@RomPerfomance and some other dudes from up north, they did suggested a couple mods for my setup before i do Carberry Rom on it.

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Ported ceramic coated standart headers
Injectors which i've got already
o2 sensor relocation

As the summer holidays are coming up in august , i'm not going to rush things and will do what has to be done slowly . If i'm lucky i'll try and make a T Day in the end of the year, but my plan is to get ready for the next springs Nurburgring trip, that's the aim...

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The O2 sensor relocation is only really needed if you are going for ALS, but when I spoke to Rich he said it reads differently in the downpipe rather than the up-pipe but didn't seem to concerned about the location. Unless you've bought a bug specific downpipe most aftermarket sports/decats have a bung and the hole to relocate anyway - one I'll do when I fit the new turbo

Is Rich going to do the Carberry stuff or are you going somewhere else
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Originally Posted by JonMc
The O2 sensor relocation is only really needed if you are going for ALS, but when I spoke to Rich he said it reads differently in the downpipe rather than the up-pipe but didn't seem to concerned about the location. Unless you've bought a bug specific downpipe most aftermarket sports/decats have a bung and the hole to relocate anyway - one I'll do when I fit the new turbo

Is Rich going to do the Carberry stuff or are you going somewhere else
Carberry rom current features:

-Speed Density
-Rally Style Anti-Lag
-2Step Launch Control
-Per Gear Wastegate and Boost Target control
-Anti-Lag enabled/disabled via user defined switch
-Launch Control enabled/disabled via user defined switch
-Mode byte replaced with individual switches
-Flash CEL in the event of knock w/DTC functionality
-Fuel Pump Duty Control
-Map Switching
-Launch Control Static Fuel/Timing
-Positive/Negative MAP Sensor Offsets for aftermarket MAP sensors
-No Lift to Shift (Requires slight wiring modification)
-Cut X from Y for Launch Control and NLTS
-Spark cut Launch Control


i want to get the most of it this time, i should have been told what supporting mods i need to gain what i want and sort it at one time. I'm not sure if Rich is ready for Carberry, it's new for him and takes time to adapt i guess. Andrew Car or Francis mapped a lot of cars, big Fud have been running it for some time , going mafless and plus the features is the way forward i think.. I'm going to see Rich in a couple of weeks time and see where we at...
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It'd be interesting to see if Rich is going down that route and if so what sort of timeframes. Carberry ROM is getting very close to some of the ECUTEK features that are now available and I'd be interested in a quite a bit of the stuff when it comes to fitting the new turbo; whilst it's convenient to go to Rich and we all know him, I think the switch to the more capable mapping suite would merit the move away - it would be a shame not to go back but needs must...
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Well this is it. I'm not going away no where, Rich is decent bloke and helped me a lot during my learning time and i will happily stay with him. As for mapping , i don't see a problem of using some one else as there's a choice to chose from these days. I spoke a lot with Francis, Simon Frayz, got some power graphs to compare etc., etc.,some very good advice as well, and now can make up my mind who to use when i put the rest of the mods.
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Which echoes my sentiment, but if Rich doesn't have the time to learn the Carberry stuff then I'd find it hard to stay with him for an open source map unless he can compete features wise with the Carberry stuff - if he's going to take it on board then I'll stick with him
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Are all those car berry mapping features really necessary?
Does seem like some of the open source features are similar to the ecutek.
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Originally Posted by chet123
Are all those car berry mapping features really necessary?
Does seem like some of the open source features are similar to the ecutek.
Not all of them, but the ones I particularly want are the twin maps, LC, ALS and MAFless. The first 2 I know Rich can do with open source but the rest need either carberry or ecutek and the former is still cheaper
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The LC on ecutek is not the same as on Carberry, also my Ecu wasn't capable of mapping it in on the normal OS mapp, i think only V8 ecu started LC ive been told by FB...

As for the software it self , Carberry is much more refind than normal OS , with a tad more udjustments for a mapper to make it smoother. All these toys are just toys at the end of the day , but with the work put it and most important mafless option, i think it's a bang for buck software. You'll pay almost double for an RaceRom on Ecutek...

Also it takes along time to do it, gear + map... I'm getting to know that in general a propper map takes more than 2 hrs so whoever is taking less, you'll probably will have to come back for a tweak... There was a huge debate about all this, and the conclusion was , Bob, Andy , Si , Francis, all agreed that to get it spot on they could only do 2 cars a day realisticly...Now do your maths

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what are the positives of a car running MAFless?
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Most of it because of reliability ...

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In the last two days i've discarded mafs off two customers cars for being faulty. They are fine for up to 350bhp but that is no guarantee they are reading right. If the MAF sensor starts playing up the read les and less airflow resulting in lean running. And like yesterday, it was that bad the customers car was running 14's AFR under boost, and todays car the MAFwas under reading by 60g/s airflow less than it should.. that means low on power and running very lean. They are not as reliable as they should be because people never clean the bloody things.
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They are also less reliable when you fit an induction kit due to oiling and vibrations and if you go down the FMIC route you have little choice but to fit one - oiling can be managed but vibrations are less easy to deal with.
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Originally Posted by JonMc
why an induction kit without a FMIC? Surely a good panel filter would have avoided heat-soak
Now coming back to the ^^^ subject, i'm not sure, have no technical expertise on this one but as you said not exceeding 400 the cossie panel filter with a standart box should do the job, heat soak yes, that should prevent loosing power a bit on a hot day o proper blast. I'm only wondering is it going to be as efficient as RCM kit i've got ? I was about to make a heat shield for it but might go back to box if it's as good at this stage...
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Because you can now use your cold air feed straight into the air box rather than refitting the muffler box and the under bonnet feed - an immediate improvement on the factory airbox without the heat soak issues
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So i spoke about this with Richard. the air cold feed to the standart box is deffo an improvement, but as ive mentioned the car is not an everyday car. im not getting stuck in trafics daily so its not a huge issue to me in the end. As for tbe better more effecient flow when on the move is another case. RCM kit breaths in way more air than the cossie in the standart box. and the cold air feed will help with the cooler aif as well. Im getting done the heat shield for it as well.. i think it makes sence...
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Hi Mantas

Not sure,but we never run cold air feed on our previous build and we are tracked our wagon like on track days or drag strip



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Originally Posted by jura11
Hi Mantas

Not sure,but we run cold air feed on our previous build and we are tracked our wagon like on track days or drag strip



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Sorry bud didnt get it what you've meant?. its a debate of whaf to use at my stage of tune. around 400 bhp , as ive got cold air feed now but didnt have it before, i think RCM kit will still outperfome the standart box, but only with a negative side of more chance of a heat soak. im sure the standsrt box is good enough , but if RCM is more beneficial ghen why not using it... I recon the only beneficial thing with a standart box is a heat soak for a daily use... Other than that the was a reason why the cone filters were made isnt it? im sure , they are used not only when fitting FMIC....
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Originally Posted by mantazini
Sorry bud didnt get it what you've meant?. its a debate of whaf to use at my stage of tune. around 400 bhp , as ive got cold air feed now but didnt have it before, i think RCM kit will still outperfome the standart box, but only with a negative side of more chance of a heat soak. im sure the standsrt box is good enough , but if RCM is more beneficial ghen why not using it... I recon the only beneficial thing with a standart box is a heat soak for a daily use... Other than that the was a reason why the cone filters were made isnt it? im sure , they are used not only when fitting FMIC....
Sorry Mantas I said that wrongly,I just want to say this: We are never run any kind cold air feed on our previous build 2.1L with MDX321T

If you are still on OE airbox I would say you should be OK at this level(400bhp),but still think you should be OK too with RCM induction kit..

Running Cold air feed or not running its sometimes marmite in most people view as in mappers view

Heat soak,if you can source ACT gauge(those gauges cost around £25) and really worth to have at least if you are want to know exact what is wrong or what can be good

You can have look on Shaun thread where he tried like OE airbox and BRD induction kit or you can speak with other people who switch from TMIC to FMIC at this level and they're gain like on hp and torque side,I know you can loose sometimes on the spool up,but on the road you shouldn't see massive difference,if yes then is something wrong

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Originally Posted by mantazini
So i spoke about this with Richard. the air cold feed to the standart box is deffo an improvement, but as ive mentioned the car is not an everyday car. im not getting stuck in trafics daily so its not a huge issue to me in the end. As for tbe better more effecient flow when on the move is another case. RCM kit breaths in way more air than the cossie in the standart box. and the cold air feed will help with the cooler aif as well. Im getting done the heat shield for it as well.. i think it makes sence...
The heat shield will make sense and I'm looking at how to do one for mine now, probably with cold air feed connected directly to it. Every little helps as the warmer denser air just saps the power. As you've said though, it's not a daily runner so won't sit in traffic - the only issue would be on sessioned track days queuing in the pit lane
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Default Big thanks to Omar & Car Care Kensington

After rear hub and bearing change it was time for a proper geometry, ive heard nothing but good about Car Care Kensington and looking what kind of stuff being prepared , serviced there i was keen to try them. Spoke to Omar aka Killer and got booked for a geo session with them. The Portuguese fella new his stuff and scoobys were no new to him so after speaking we decided to go for these..

P.S. the castor is uneven i'll have to get whiteline adjustable top mounts to sort that out...




Car feels connected, will have to try it properly thought...


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Gathering the rest of the stuff slowly...

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The only thing I've found about the whiteline top mounts are they do camber and caster in one move, there are others that do both independantly.

If it's whitelines you want when I upgrade to coilovers mine will be available but that won't be for a couple of months
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1st dibs bud. What coils you thinking of?
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Looking at the HSD monopro ones st the moment, similar price to BCs but the spec seems slightly better
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Looking at the HSD monopro ones st the moment, similar price to BCs but the spec seems slightly better
I see, well let me know when you ready if the money is right i'll take the c max top mounts off you .

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Getting bored after taking my girls to Luton airport i went to Serg to see what he's up to, ended up polishing my car as he was doing his one... I have no clue at this one so did just same as he did, i've used farecla G3 scratch remover with the machine, as it got darker could finish it with Turtle wax original car wax, so will have to make it when ive got spare time... My effort..

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Last couple of weeks been quiet and nothing much involved with the car as it was detting in 5th and 6th ... received a call from my bud Misha and he dragged me into doing another track day , Cadwell that is , so i had to sort the det problem... As i decided to go for Carberry Rom i've asked Francis@RomPerfomance to come and see me... We ended remapping it on OS from the beginning as Carberry is a different ball game and i'm still waiting for a couple mods to be done. The result was amazing , this dude definitely knows his stuff , it took us time , but attention to details was amazing it's a totally different car to what it was... Did a general check up yesterday, changed oil , checked fluids etc., everything seems fine and good to go. It will be really good to test recent mods ive done to a car , turbo, brakes .... Looking forward for a "mini nurburgring" fun....
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Sounds good Mantas, I'll have to get him number off you as I'll be sorting my turbo and injectors after the Uxbridge show. If I can go straight to the Carberry and delete the MAF I'll be happy
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Sounds good Mantas, I'll have to get him number off you as I'll be sorting my turbo and injectors after the Uxbridge show. If I can go straight to the Carberry and delete the MAF I'll be happy
I see no problmem of doing that, TGV delete needs to be done thought, and lambda replaced into the downpipe for safety purposes . Another good thing is that he travels and comes to your door. So much more comfortable, saving time and money... I'll mention you to him regards it. His number is on my signature
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I have some spare TGV's that I'm going to weld up and I have the bung on my down-pipe already to move the lambda - I'll just add them to the list when I swap the turbo


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