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Old 22 July 2013, 08:57 PM
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Had an amazing day @ Cadwell Park .. Weather was 36 degrees and was really hard on a car, so i was being careful shifting at 5-6k rpm as the oils went up to 110 degrees in less then 4 laps... Day had its ups and downs , but eventually everything ended positively. It was really good to test my mods after Cadwell No1 which were brakes, suspension, turbo setup....That worked really great, AP's did excellent job, never faded but i've managed to boil the Gulf racing dot 4 fluid, so thats going and Motul will be replaced... Kyb's ultras worked perfectly as well, i like chucking car into corners so a bit of body roll suits me, BUT. My aim on this track day was to learn how to drive smoothly, and i found out that this suspension and the way diffs work are not really suited for that kind of driving, i was getting under steer or had to be very slow into the corners , opposite to when i just chuck it in aggressively and then adjust it with a little drift going way faster in and out of the corner. Misha was loving it sideways in some sections....Although there were moments on faster sections specially on the fast bends were it wanted more stability , suspension felt way to soft and tried to unsettle the car, faster sections with hard braking zones made the rear to light by transferring weight into the front, i was working pretty hard to keep it on the track. late braking was fine by calipers but not with the suspension, had to bee smooth on them and start smoother earlier braking. Another mod was tyres , R888s very predictable and transformed the handling of the car, i had to udjust my driving to them as well... So much gripper even than RE070's , but when traction lost still very controllable , which did surprised me... DS2500pads were fine, but would like a bit sharper bite TBH , in some sections it just needed that extra bit of bite...Turbo setup, just nuts , 110 miles on the straight up left into the blind bend.... Fast enough ATM... Forgot to add another little mod ive done before t day was rear upper strut brace...

Now the bad moments, had a major off, let racing lotus past me and then followed him, hi wiggled his **** on Chris Curve section and i had to avoid him and went on the grass.. That was proper practice as i was heading into the barrier but flicked into 3rd and surprisingly it pulled me back half of the way of the barrier, was really pleased with the car and myself Unfortunately tyre came of the wheel and damaged it a bit, but thats nothing compared to a feked up car.... Big thanks to Maggy who gave me his wheel set with some average tyres , but that saved me enjoying the rest of the day... Also want to thank Francis aka scoobiewrx555 on here , who did an excellent job on mapping my car, which saw me no det in these hot conditions nevertheless the car was flying like a rocket. Anyone who wants to keep Ecutek and to have RaceRom features on OS soft , needs to speak to him regards Carberry Rom, this guys amount of expertise and the attention to details is second to none... I had engine light on just a couple days before track day , he came to sort this out for me all the way from northampton just because i had to go to Cadwell... was easy job , but he still made all that way to sort me out. That's what i called customer service...



Conclusion is .... The car is a fun car , really capable as i managed to make 1.49 short shifting, reccon with less cars and idiots driving them i'd be somewhere in midd 1.40's It's never going to be as focused car as Budgies which is an example of what imagine the track tool should be, but still good enough to enjoy the track fun... It needs DCCD to help with the bends , lower grunt 2.1, 2.5 forged lump, quieter exhaust as they've measured 103db of 105db limit ... Bilsteins B14 coilovers to stabilize it at higher speed sections...and one of the 1st mods i'm going to to now is an 19row oil cooler... the temps are on a different level with this turbo setup.... Got myself front udjustable 22mm arb while doing a tea brake @ Cadwell from Tyron , who is sadly stripping his spec c...

Wednesday a day before Cadwell we went to fit an oil cooler to Mishas car to FenSport , had a chat to the owner Adrian, really nice and humble dude showed me his race cars and had a bit of a laugh while the job was being done.. Got a couple of pics...





BTW talking about GT86 , half the power of mine, as much as fun ... Properly balanced fun car, amazing feeling...sit low, feels like a go cart, it's light agile, munches the corners flat out with that power...amazing tool, if i could get one , i definitely would...with a turbocharger kit , which he's doing next year,, will be even more fun...

A very boring video with my off the tarmac when battling a lotus...

That's all for now...


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Shame about the wheel. but at least the car survived. Oil temps aren't too bad - I saw 101degrees on the way home yesterday, but I was crawling in traffic. I's start thinking about a cooler if the temps were regularly getting over 115

I'll be giving Francis a bell, and Northampton isn't too far - hopefully I'll sort out some switches for the LC and ALS before he comes and he can spend some time getting a decent base map, and of course the rate at which I get work done it'll be a bit cooler come remap time
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He's got his gear , switches etc., unless you prefer your own stuff...
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I already have a couple of switches - I just need to make up the facia plate
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Great write up Mantas, how did you find the grip on the sharp right before the long straight?
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Originally Posted by AWG
Great write up Mantas, how did you find the grip on the sharp right before the long straight?
It was ok Andy in 3rd flat out just as soon as the nose turns in , i'm still amazed how much grip R888s can produce... I'm sure i can do much better, but the car has to be ready for it next time... I had to think about a lot of things, play a lot when gearing, save the engine, oil temps etc., the heat was enormous that day......
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More handling bits came in .. Front 22mm ARB and links ....
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A couple pics from Cadwell , would love to come back there anytime..









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Little off time from cars and general stuff gave me a bit of fresh air and couple more thoughts what's have to be done to the car... 1st of all its the exhaust i bought couple weeks ago . Spoke to a welder today and decided to match it to the existing center section. I know it can/will be a bit of resistance on flow but in a real world i doubt it will feel much in it.... So the back box hopefully will be fitted next Tuesday.
I'm hoping to get the headers ported, ceramic coated by the end of next month too , so it will be injectors and fuel rail mod + FPR left and then a tweak for this year..
If there's enough of time on Tuesday have front ARB with links and engine+gearbox mounts in the boot , we'll see how we getting on but hoping to do these as well.....

There's couple more more things on my mind , well couple , it's like a never ending story... The oil cooler is a must for warmer days, but i hope i wont be needing it this year , as it's getting colder already... Oil catch can.... I'm still haven't made my mind up on which one. RCM are good but 200 quid is a bit steep for me.

Now brakes , after my incident with lotus and recovering the moments i had to rethink the sequence of the effects on a car after impact with a kerb and hard braking while approaching the wall.... Now i don't think the brake fluid was a problem of the ABS light on the dash , i think its more to do of it trying to do the job when i was going sideways on the grass.... Still general braking wasn't amazing , rear end lifting up instead of putting down the car equally. Better pads is a must i was just missing a bit of sharper brake pedal and bite.
I'm following Ricky's thread and getting my own idea of his experience.
He mentioned about bigger wheels and tyres. There's a very good point of what has been said, but for my liking i think 17's retain the car "wild" , it's much more chuckable and makes you work a bit more , which is fine with me , but that means it wont make the car stable and fast as with bigger/wider wheel tyre combo. 245/45/17 is what will give more confidence entering and going out of corner , not necessary 18" size wheels. I'm looking forward trying to chase down Mr. Budgen even if it puts me on the edge ,while he's having a sandwich by looking in the rear mirror , it gives me pleasure to keep involved , smooth is nice and fast but just not yet for my liking. Pete's hawk is an example how i imagine the track tool, but i have to squeeze the most from my budget and it's far far away from the T3 PJB.

The only other considerable mod would be coilovers to give me a bit more confidence on faster sections .... and i hope Jon will sort me out with C max top mounts so i can put even more castor.

Had a fun moment today when going to work through our usual route maple cross to football place, some biker in his CBR, i think ,tried to chase me down ..... 2 corners and i was gone.... we exchanged with after , he was really surprised the way i was i took off in 2nd ... Love these , keeps me motivated to progress in this never ending journey ...

She's all ugly and dirty, but i still love her...
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Some good plans there mate. I'll probably be taking my manifold off after the next meet. If you let me know when you're planning to get yours to Francis I'll try and get mine to you, he said he'd probably see you when I first mentioned it
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Originally Posted by mantazini

I know it can/will be a bit of resistance on flow but in a real world i doubt it will feel much in it.... So the back box hopefully will be fitted next Tuesday.

Oil catch can.... I'm still haven't made my mind up on which one. RCM are good but 200 quid is a bit steep for me.

I'm following Ricky's thread and getting my own idea of his experience.
He mentioned about bigger wheels and tyres. There's a very good point of what has been said, but for my liking i think 17's retain the car "wild" , it's much more chuckable and makes you work a bit more , which is fine with me , but that means it wont make the car stable and fast as with bigger/wider wheel tyre combo. 245/45/17 is what will give more confidence entering and going out of corner , not necessary 18" size wheels.

I'm looking forward trying to chase down Mr. Budgen even if it puts me on the edge ,while he's having a sandwich by looking in the rear mirror , it gives me pleasure to keep involved , smooth is nice and fast but just not yet for my liking. Pete's hawk is an example how i imagine the track tool, but i have to squeeze the most from my budget and it's far far away from the T3 PJB.

Love these , keeps me motivated to progress in this never ending journey ...
Exhaust modification is a good idea & something I will also have to look into soon. I got black flagged for sound on the final session at Donington, I gave up letting off the accelerator down the start/finish straight & got flagged with a 98.3db. Just 0.3 over Stupidly I made the mistake of taking out the second resonator when i bought the exhaust a few years ago, may end up having to put another one back in!

I would look into the new design OBP catch can or look out for a used one. Mine with all fittings probably worked out to under £150.

The reason I like these types of threads is it is a great place to bounce & sound out ideas. So many times somebody will come out with a much better idea or a different way of sorting out an issue or just offer to lend a hand
I never thought of my wheel issue in the way you've looked at it. i.e. my biggest issue was the narrow 225 section tyre & high offset (sitting too far into wheel arch) & not so much that I must move upto 18" wheel with a 40 profile tyre instead of 45. So a good solution for me would be to find some light weight 17x8 or 8.5 track wheels with a 40 to 35mm offset & then retain my Re070 track tyres. In the future I can always still stick with the cheaper 17" track tyres, fit the lighter & cheaper 330mm BBK rather than 356mm which require 18" wheels & have the added "suppleness" or "wildness" as you put it of the high profile rubber

Agree what its like trying, hopelessly to chase down Mr Budgen, but it is great fun pushing the car to nine tenths of its limit trying to get there!!
Also compromises must be made on a limited budget i.e. for me smaller wheels size hence cheaper wheels / track tyres & cheaper brakes etc

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If you look closely to motrsport you going to notice that most of the race tyre sidewalls are tall. Sometimes its because regulations but th tyre does another job as well , they work as a cushion too, they aboarb every imput tarmac gives you workig same time with the suspension. Just try to Go onto a kerb @ Nurburgring with a 35 profile tyre and you'll see the outcome. Low profile tyres offer no more grip than an identical width tyre of a higher profile. They do of course offer more precision and immediacy in steering response, and therefore can improve handling but at the expense of ride . They also offer reduced opportunity to tune the handling - a stiff low profile tyre will generally offer less progression at its grip limit than a higher profile tyre. On the smooth F1 level tracs as Silverstone lower sidewall tyre might be a better option but taking into account the UK roads and other tracks were not all of the kerbs are low the 45 should be as just fine. At the end of the day its just my opinion and what have been read , discovered by other too. Corner unsprung weight comes into mind as well , pfisically Bigger wheel = heavier wheel ? As the tyre ? I might be wrong so anyone who's got the imput please you're welcome to spread your knowledge... It just too many little things made my mind to swap my 18's back to 17's. By looking at the Ricky's picks some of the tyres look like they want to come of the rim and they're re070's? What pressure's have you used bud? It might be the case of them flexing...
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Ricky you should fit 235/45/17 on yours anyway mate Plus a semi slick like an AD08 or a 888 comes up wider anyway

Nice post Mantas, keep chipping away
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Originally Posted by 53
Ricky you should fit 235/45/17 on yours anyway mate Plus a semi slick like an AD08 or a 888 comes up wider anyway

Nice post Mantas, keep chipping away
Depending how much you want to spend Federal do the RS595s in that size, but the Nankang NS2Rs aren't available yet
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Depending how much you want to spend Federal do the RS595s in that size, but the Nankang NS2Rs aren't available yet
I think they already are Jon 245 but not sure if in 17 or 18 inch ... Maggy could clear this up...
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it looks crap............























nah not really looks great fella and some nice mods

I had a ride in a jdm bug today too.
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Originally Posted by mantazini
I think they already are Jon 245 but not sure if in 17 or 18 inch ... Maggy could clear this up...
No 17s at the moment for 235/45 - I spoke to Maggy a couple of weeks back
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
it looks crap............














nah not really looks great fella and some nice mods

I had a ride in a jdm bug today too.

Thanks Dan....

Was it that one of the top spec bugs by the way? I'm realy looking forward to see them 2 ... And maybe be we could sort the photoshoot as somewhere at your side guys....







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No 17s at the moment for 235/45 - I spoke to Maggy a couple of weeks back
Wasn't it i saw he put an add that bigger sizes are available , will speak to him today to see whats what...
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no a local guy who has just bought it, I sold him a few bits.

its just a standard jdm bug that's just had a zen remap.

went very nice. he is a member on here.
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Originally Posted by mantazini
Thanks Dan....

Was it that one of the top spec bugs by the way? I'm realy looking forward to see them 2 ... And maybe be we could sort the photoshoot as somewhere at your side guys....









Wasn't it i saw he put an add that bigger sizes are available , will speak to him today to see whats what...
He did say more sizes are going to arrive but I specifically asked about the 235/45s as I'm looking for some wider 17s for mine
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Might be the pics themselves make it look like that. Or may be that I may have reduced the tyre pressures when very hot and then went out when cooler and pressures dropped too much? Will keep better tabs on pressures next time.
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Pressures are as much important as all of the other factors...remember what we spoke about couple weeks ago? front tyres should be adjusted depending on the shape of the track , if there's more right handers then left handers your front left tyre will always be on the load and will gain pressures much faster then the other corners .... need to study this thing properly thought... Lots of time to read now...off we go
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Today i've been mostly going through my unfitted parts , , put them on a side ready to be sure their in the place when i need them.... Unfortunately only one job has been done as i left other stuff in the boot of my focus...
The noise was my recent concern for future T days , last measurement was 103db from 105db alowed. It would be a shame to get refused on a track cause of that specially on a 3.5hr 1 way trip to the track.... I cought a bargain of the century Groupe N TSL back box in a mint condition for 35 quid... We udjusted it to my current center section , still the sound is epic when you floor it but very "grown up" when doing sensible speeds . This is how it looks/sounds.




The noise problem is definately sorted...

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I have to say, I am more than happy with my TSL pulse extraction system. Whilst I loved the noise of the blitz it was a bit too much for long drives and certainly not track friendly. The TSL system is spot on, sensible for daily use but certainly grabs your attention when you floor it
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During the years of impreza ownership we constantly, well me at least , were getting problems with sensors, being them faulty etc... It was always a mission to go back to your mapper to see what's what, replace it , reset the ecu etc etc.... So we had a discussion regards this with my current mapper Francis@RomPerfomance and he showed me a fantastic solution to this. I'm not sure if its compatible with late classics with Ecuteks , but it is with new age.
It's called " OBDII Bluetooth Diagnostic Interface "
It's a wicked little gadget where you can trace the faults , reset ECU and do some other things . The best thing is you do it with your phone , app on it. It cost me around 12 quid in total , app and gadget ... Haven't tried all of tricks on it but soon will do ... Have a look and get one !!!


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Android-To...item19d0ccc6ea
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Loads of thoughts regards the suspension , cooling system , and general scoobynet marketplace browsing got me purchasing these goodies.... Before i got these coilovers i put my name down on a group buy for Meister R coilovers , which i suppose would be good enough for my needs. the only thing i was concerned was used material quality and service. So far have heard only a couple bad reviews but i tend to lean into things that have been tested and used in motorsport. So i found these second hand and i think they will be a step up to all the Taiwan made ones. These are AST Sportline S1 series with adjustable top mounts... They can be rebuild which is a very important thing. The car wont be used as much so these should be perfect for blasts some track work.




Now i know the winter is on the door step , but couldn't ignore it , specially after last Caldwell where the oil temperatures were a problem and a restriction to enjoy the fun... It's a Mocal 19Row oil cooler with braided hoses, proper connectors and heat protected sleeve. Just need to get a thermostatic sandwich plate .





Also found Carbon Metallic race compound 7747.07.16.44 perfomance Friction used 2mm from 10mm when new pads on flebay. 2 sets for a bargain price so got them too . DS2500 on my 4Pot AP's haven't impressed me too much ... They were a step forward from a Brembo setup but IMO that's because of calipers themselves.

That's possibly will withdraw me from a track day this year , but i'm looking forward to the next one as i'm planing a trip to Nurburgring and a couple more in UK with ETC...

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Good purchases
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let us know how you find the performance friction pads mate?
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let us know how you find the performance friction pads mate?
Had the Z rated pads with Brembo calipers before ... They were very good for the price , probably the best for 120 quid you can get and even better than more expensive ones . These are Tarmac rally spec pads , unfortunately i havent heard anything from seller yet and its been a while . It might be i'm just waisting my time and will have to get my monkeys back ....
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