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07 February 2013, 02:02 PM
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yes, thanks. this paragraph was all in that context anyways, but cheers for clarifying for everyone 
Ummmmm, what? Underlying issue? I don't give a crap about the Governments motivation for pushing the bill through, they are always trying something to boost their ratings, without giving a monkeys about the general public...every half wit can see that pretty clearly.
The ACTUAL issue which we are debating here is, do we agree with allowing the definition of marriage to be re-defined, which is currently defined as "the voluntary union for life, of one man and one woman, to the exclusion of all others"
Homosexual people have already got Civil Partnerships which give them all the rights a Married couple do, so why are they trying to re-define marriage exactly?
I'll tell you one reason why, so they can infiltrate a whole generation of children into a NWO way of thinking. Just go check out some of the books they will FORCE and INDOCTRINATE our children with! Not to mention you won't be able to opt your children out of this part of the curriculum as it is a "human rights issue"
Homo books for primary schools: http://c4m.org.uk/downloads/schools.pdf
Video explaining why you wont be allowed to opt out of the homocurric: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk_zL...ature=youtu.be
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Ummmmm, what? Underlying issue? I don't give a crap about the Governments motivation for pushing the bill through, they are always trying something to boost their ratings, without giving a monkeys about the general public...every half wit can see that pretty clearly.
The ACTUAL issue which we are debating here is, do we agree with allowing the definition of marriage to be re-defined, which is currently defined as "the voluntary union for life, of one man and one woman, to the exclusion of all others"
Homosexual people have already got Civil Partnerships which give them all the rights a Married couple do, so why are they trying to re-define marriage exactly?
I'll tell you one reason why, so they can infiltrate a whole generation of children into a NWO way of thinking. Just go check out some of the books they will FORCE and INDOCTRINATE our children with! Not to mention you won't be able to opt your children out of this part of the curriculum as it is a "human rights issue"
Homo books for primary schools: http://c4m.org.uk/downloads/schools.pdf
Video explaining why you wont be allowed to opt out of the homocurric: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk_zL...ature=youtu.be
See more info here: http://c4m.org.uk/resources/
http://c4m.org.uk
Exactly the blinkered response I'd expect from the type of person your posts illustrate you to be. What two consenting adults choose to do is up to them, I'm 100% comfortable with same sex couples civil partnerships or adopting kids. What I'm not happy about is the government using something like this emotive subject to sell themselves...surly their dishonesty and motivation -when they have so much power over our lives- is a far greater issue?
Your ignorant and medieval blathering about what you consider normal and right plays straight into the politicians hands and has the right on minority supporting the government instead of questioning their motives. Unfortunately for you your rhetoric is exactly the sort of cr@p that lends credence to the ‘change Britain for the better' bollocks that Dave is currently spouting to justify this bill...so it will be passed.
07 February 2013, 02:03 PM
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I think your argument here is not very clear.
The problem lies with the bullying not the sexuality of the victim's parents in either case!
07 February 2013, 02:05 PM
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If you want to blame parents what kind of parents have the gheyers had to end up being gheyers then? Two wrongs don't make a right Martin.
07 February 2013, 02:05 PM
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And why would they be holding hands? I never saw any parents holding hands at the school sports day? Or is that what homosexuals do in public according to you? Do they throw in a bit of 'mincing' and 'flouncing' for good measure? 
You really are dreaming up every stupid scenario under the sun to support your narrow minded view on this!
You really are dreaming up every stupid scenario under the sun to support your narrow minded view on this!
07 February 2013, 02:08 PM
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07 February 2013, 02:19 PM
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I think we are all becoming a bit side tracked here and from some replies quite emotional. We are detracting from the real issue at hand, and that is.....Why does the definition of marriage need to be re-defined at all? Homosexuals have all the rights a married couple have with a Civil Partnership, so why re-define marriage?
07 February 2013, 02:20 PM
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I'm sure over time the kid will far sooner be bullied than spend the rest of their lives in care.
07 February 2013, 02:26 PM
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I think we are all becoming a bit side tracked here and from some replies quite emotional. We are detracting from the real issue at hand, and that is.....Why does the definition of marriage need to be re-defined at all? Homosexuals have all the rights a married couple have with a Civil Partnership, so why re-define marriage?
07 February 2013, 02:26 PM
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I think we are all becoming a bit side tracked here and from some replies quite emotional. We are detracting from the real issue at hand, and that is.....Why does the definition of marriage need to be re-defined at all? Homosexuals have all the rights a married couple have with a Civil Partnership, so why re-define marriage?
07 February 2013, 02:29 PM
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I brought pedophilia into the equation as an example as to peoples definitions of "normal" I will demonstrate to you again as you seem to have "accidentally" missed the point.
To put it as simply as possible - 50 years ago homosexuality was totally abnormal as was pedophilia.
Today homosexuality, pushed by the media and the powers that be, is becoming normal.
Therefore normal, in the sense you are using it as, is subjective.
07 February 2013, 02:31 PM
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I'm not surprised that you have mis-represented me again, seeing as you have been mis quoting me throughout this thread.
I brought pedophilia into the equation as an example as to peoples definitions of "normal" I will demonstrate to you again as you seem to have "accidentally" missed the point.
To put it as simply as possible - 50 years ago homosexuality was totally abnormal as was pedophilia.
Today homosexuality, pushed by the media and the powers that be, is becoming normal.
Therefore normal, in the sense you are using it as, is subjective.
I brought pedophilia into the equation as an example as to peoples definitions of "normal" I will demonstrate to you again as you seem to have "accidentally" missed the point.
To put it as simply as possible - 50 years ago homosexuality was totally abnormal as was pedophilia.
Today homosexuality, pushed by the media and the powers that be, is becoming normal.
Therefore normal, in the sense you are using it as, is subjective.
Somehow I think you are confusing a perception of normal and abnormal, with right and wrong
07 February 2013, 02:31 PM
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In the 1960 Black people were allowed to ride buses, but only go into their ‘section’. Using your argument I could say, 'why did they bother redefining civil rights and abolish segregation, as they could ride the bus like anyone else'? So why did that law need changing?
07 February 2013, 02:33 PM
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07 February 2013, 02:33 PM
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They could ride the bus before civil rights, just as they could after. All that changed was they got to do it more on their own terms.
No so different to this situation hey?
07 February 2013, 02:34 PM
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07 February 2013, 02:37 PM
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I'm not surprised that you have mis-represented me again, seeing as you have been mis quoting me throughout this thread.
I brought pedophilia into the equation as an example as to peoples definitions of "normal" I will demonstrate to you again as you seem to have "accidentally" missed the point.
To put it as simply as possible - 50 years ago homosexuality was totally abnormal as was pedophilia.
Today homosexuality, pushed by the media and the powers that be, is becoming normal.
Therefore normal, in the sense you are using it as, is subjective.
I brought pedophilia into the equation as an example as to peoples definitions of "normal" I will demonstrate to you again as you seem to have "accidentally" missed the point.
To put it as simply as possible - 50 years ago homosexuality was totally abnormal as was pedophilia.
Today homosexuality, pushed by the media and the powers that be, is becoming normal.
Therefore normal, in the sense you are using it as, is subjective.
Defining normal for society is impossible as it absolutely depends on the individuals outlook and experience...so your argument is fundamentally flawed, all you are trying to do is push what you consider to be 'normal' onto everyone else.
07 February 2013, 02:41 PM
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Seriously? You sure you don't want to think again about what you just said here?
Your ignorant and medieval blathering about what you consider normal and right plays straight into the politicians hands and has the right on minority supporting the government instead of questioning their motives. Unfortunately for you your rhetoric is exactly the sort of cr@p that lends credence to the ‘change Britain for the better' bollocks that Dave is currently spouting to justify this bill...so it will be passed.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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07 February 2013, 02:45 PM
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Man, I can't believe the audacity some of you guys have trying to twist the truth into a lie!
07 February 2013, 02:47 PM
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07 February 2013, 02:50 PM
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07 February 2013, 02:51 PM
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Where are our rights a heterosexuals??? I'm guessing they all want us to bend over and just take it.....pun intended.
07 February 2013, 02:53 PM
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Oh and please don't play the innocent as regards bringing paedophlia into this debate, you knew very well what you were doing there!!
07 February 2013, 02:55 PM
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Oh it is true my friend, you closing your eyes and saying its not true does not make it untrue.
Do a little bit of research and you will find that you are dead wrong.
Prior to 1967 homosexuality was actually illegal in this country. There are still many countries today where homosexuality is illegal and NOT accepted as normal.
Do a little bit of research and you will find that you are dead wrong.
Prior to 1967 homosexuality was actually illegal in this country. There are still many countries today where homosexuality is illegal and NOT accepted as normal.
07 February 2013, 02:58 PM
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Oh it is true my friend, you closing your eyes and saying its not true does not make it untrue.
Do a little bit of research and you will find that you are dead wrong.
Prior to 1967 homosexuality was actually illegal in this country. There are still many countries today where homosexuality is illegal and NOT accepted as normal.
Do a little bit of research and you will find that you are dead wrong.
Prior to 1967 homosexuality was actually illegal in this country. There are still many countries today where homosexuality is illegal and NOT accepted as normal.
07 February 2013, 02:59 PM
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It isn't the truth though, it's what you believe to be the truth and this is where you are making a mistake. You believe because you and your little webiste state something to be so it becomes the truth whereas it is in fact just opinion... a twisted one in my book!
Oh and please don't play the innocent as regards bringing paedophlia into this debate, you knew very well what you were doing there!!
Oh and please don't play the innocent as regards bringing paedophlia into this debate, you knew very well what you were doing there!!
I'm not playing innocent on anything. Everything I have written is there in black and white. I am not hiding behind anything, I am not ashamed to stand up for my beliefs and I will continue to do so, even in the face of adversary.
07 February 2013, 03:00 PM
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The people who thought homosexuality was normal 50 years ago was predominantly homosexuals.
07 February 2013, 03:00 PM
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Right, so why should our terms of marriage be re-defined to suit their terms, especially when there are already civil partnerships in place which give them the same rights as a married couple.
Where are our rights a heterosexuals??? I'm guessing they all want us to bend over and just take it.....pun intended.
Where are our rights a heterosexuals??? I'm guessing they all want us to bend over and just take it.....pun intended.