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07 February 2013, 01:10 PM
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sorry, i got an email saying replies and I couldn't help myself!
I'm pretty sure a lot of pedophiles think they are normal, and I guess one reason we don't accept this is because we are protective of our young.
Picture a world where governments/agencies start advocating pedophilia through the media, slowly slowly infiltrating peoples minds and thought patterns until pedophiles are accepted and are normal and anyone who speaks out about it are immediately branded.
I know homosexuals and pedophiles are a totally different kettle of fish, and that this would never happen (I sincerely hope) but the principle still stands. If you shout, bully and scream for something to be accepted as normal, after a while, people will do just that.
I'm pretty sure a lot of pedophiles think they are normal, and I guess one reason we don't accept this is because we are protective of our young.
Picture a world where governments/agencies start advocating pedophilia through the media, slowly slowly infiltrating peoples minds and thought patterns until pedophiles are accepted and are normal and anyone who speaks out about it are immediately branded.
I know homosexuals and pedophiles are a totally different kettle of fish, and that this would never happen (I sincerely hope) but the principle still stands. If you shout, bully and scream for something to be accepted as normal, after a while, people will do just that.
07 February 2013, 01:12 PM
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07 February 2013, 01:14 PM
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sorry, i got an email saying replies and I couldn't help myself!
I'm pretty sure a lot of pedophiles think they are normal, and I guess one reason we don't accept this is because we are protective of our young.
Picture a world where governments/agencies start advocating pedophilia through the media, slowly slowly infiltrating peoples minds and thought patterns until pedophiles are accepted and are normal and anyone who speaks out about it are immediately branded.
I know homosexuals and pedophiles are a totally different kettle of fish, and that this would never happen (I sincerely hope) but the principle still stands. If you shout, bully and scream for something to be accepted as normal, after a while, people will do just that.
I'm pretty sure a lot of pedophiles think they are normal, and I guess one reason we don't accept this is because we are protective of our young.
Picture a world where governments/agencies start advocating pedophilia through the media, slowly slowly infiltrating peoples minds and thought patterns until pedophiles are accepted and are normal and anyone who speaks out about it are immediately branded.
I know homosexuals and pedophiles are a totally different kettle of fish, and that this would never happen (I sincerely hope) but the principle still stands. If you shout, bully and scream for something to be accepted as normal, after a while, people will do just that.
I believe you should come clean now ,and admit you're not a serious poster
07 February 2013, 01:14 PM
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I detect very little objectivity in your posts I'm afraid. You are coming at this from an entrenched position. You have now dropped the 'P' bomb into the discussion, for reasons known only to yourself
07 February 2013, 01:18 PM
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*Now on the topic of re-defining marriage*
Homosexuality can be harmful to children as It has been proven by extensive research that children who grow up in a home with both biological mother and father are parents are much better off.
Homosexuality can be harmful to homo's as it often involves sexual practices which are harmful over the short term & long term.
Homosexual marriage will be harmful for a huge array of reasons, whether you acknowledge this or not.
thttp://www.tfpstudentaction.org/politically-incorrect/homosexuality/10-reasons-why-homosexual-marriage-is-harmful-and-must-be-opposed.html
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07 February 2013, 01:23 PM
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Just to make it clear. I think pedophilia is totally abnormal, sick, twisted and wrong, I'm sure you would agree.
TO make it CRYSTAL clear to those of you who can't be bothered to read things properly, I am NOT comparing homosexuals with pedophiles, simply peoples understanding, definition and comprehension of "normal"
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07 February 2013, 01:25 PM
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07 February 2013, 01:28 PM
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The only difference is we protect our children because they are vulnerable and sexually are not matured for sex. If we didn't protect our young as we do (as some of the animal kingdom), this wouldn't be relevant and pedo's would be accepted just as homo's.
Homosexuality is harmful to children. It has been proven by extensive research that children who grow up in a home with both biological mother and father are parents are much better off.
Homosexuality is harmful to homo's as it often involves sexual practices which are harmful over the short term & long term.
Homosexuality is harmful for a huge array of reasons, whether you acknowledge this or not.
thttp://www.tfpstudentaction.org/politically-incorrect/homosexuality/10-reasons-why-homosexual-marriage-is-harmful-and-must-be-opposed.html
Homosexuality is harmful to children. It has been proven by extensive research that children who grow up in a home with both biological mother and father are parents are much better off.
Homosexuality is harmful to homo's as it often involves sexual practices which are harmful over the short term & long term.
Homosexuality is harmful for a huge array of reasons, whether you acknowledge this or not.
thttp://www.tfpstudentaction.org/politically-incorrect/homosexuality/10-reasons-why-homosexual-marriage-is-harmful-and-must-be-opposed.html
07 February 2013, 01:29 PM
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Homosexuality is harmful to children. It has been proven by extensive research that children who grow up in a home with both biological mother and father are parents are much better off.
I'm pretty sure that there's 'research' showing that being brought up by just one parent is not as good as being brought up by 2 (and whatever sexual orientation)
I'm sure that kids brought up in prosperous households do better than those brought up in poverty too.
What I'm absolutely sure of is that kids that are brought up by caring parents do better.
BTW what would you do if your child came home one day and announced that they were gay?
07 February 2013, 01:32 PM
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Pity me all you like. Although you are wasting your "pity"
07 February 2013, 01:35 PM
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How does this make gay people harmful to kids? This is a ridiculous, utterly tragic line of argument.
I'm pretty sure that there's 'research' showing that being brought up by just one parent is not as good as being brought up by 2 (and whatever sexual orientation)
I'm sure that kids brought up in prosperous households do better than those brought up in poverty too.
What I'm absolutely sure of is that kids that are brought up by caring parents do better.
BTW what would you do if your child came home one day and announced that they were gay?
I'm pretty sure that there's 'research' showing that being brought up by just one parent is not as good as being brought up by 2 (and whatever sexual orientation)
I'm sure that kids brought up in prosperous households do better than those brought up in poverty too.
What I'm absolutely sure of is that kids that are brought up by caring parents do better.
BTW what would you do if your child came home one day and announced that they were gay?
I was talking about peoples views on what is "normal"
The fact that research has shown that children do much better in a home where they have both biological mother and father as parents is towards the "we shouldnt re-difine marriage argument"
With going down quite a few rabbit holes in the debate here, things are getting a little bit overlapped.
Again I would like to re-iterate that I do NOT think homosexuals are along the same lines as pedophiles, but was using this as an example to peoples views on what is and isn't "normal"
07 February 2013, 01:38 PM
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If a Child of mine decided they were gay, they would already know my stance on this, but would also know that I still love them and wouldn't disown them because of this. Just because I don't agree with homosexuality doesn't mean I hate all homosexuals you know!
07 February 2013, 01:40 PM
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No this wasn't my line of argument. Excuse me if I have'nt been totally clear.
I was talking about peoples views on what is "normal"
The fact that research has shown that children do much better in a home where they have both biological mother and father as parents is towards the "we shouldnt re-difine marriage argument"
With going down quite a few rabbit holes in the debate here, things are getting a little bit overlapped.
Again I would like to re-iterate that I do NOT think homosexuals are along the same lines as pedophiles, but was using this as an example to peoples views on what is and isn't "normal"
I was talking about peoples views on what is "normal"
The fact that research has shown that children do much better in a home where they have both biological mother and father as parents is towards the "we shouldnt re-difine marriage argument"
With going down quite a few rabbit holes in the debate here, things are getting a little bit overlapped.
Again I would like to re-iterate that I do NOT think homosexuals are along the same lines as pedophiles, but was using this as an example to peoples views on what is and isn't "normal"
I just don't get your argument sorry.
How can using pedophilia helpful to this debate? Nobody would argue that THAT behaviour is abnormal (or illegal for that matter), whereas 2 people who care for each other wishing to get married, is quite hard to think of as abnormal. Actually I think it abnormal to get so upset by the prospect of it.
07 February 2013, 01:40 PM
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In my opinion there is nothing wrong with homosexuality or gay marriage come to that.
07 February 2013, 01:41 PM
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07 February 2013, 01:45 PM
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Better that than they grow up in a home where they aren't cared for properly or nurtured and I see plenty of that with some of our 'normal' heterosexuals.
Sexuality shouldn't be a factor really!
07 February 2013, 01:52 PM
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I know you won't like this, but to me children need a loving home and if two homosexual people can give them that then what's the issue?
Better that than they grow up in a home where they aren't cared for properly or nurtured and I see plenty of that with some of our 'normal' heterosexuals.
Sexuality shouldn't be a factor really!
Better that than they grow up in a home where they aren't cared for properly or nurtured and I see plenty of that with some of our 'normal' heterosexuals.
Sexuality shouldn't be a factor really!
For the sake of the kid it's just wrong.
07 February 2013, 01:54 PM
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07 February 2013, 01:55 PM
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Kids get bullied for all sorts of reasons. My brother was bullied yet he grew up in a home with a Mum and a Dad.
The biggest issue with bullying is the schools and ther lack of desire to deal with it, but that is a whole different debate!
At the end of the day I think a loving home is the most important thing not the sexuality of those providing it!
07 February 2013, 01:58 PM
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07 February 2013, 02:00 PM
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07 February 2013, 02:01 PM
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I don't think I would take too kindly to it TBH.
07 February 2013, 02:01 PM
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You really are dreaming up every stupid scenario under the sun to support your narrow minded view on this!