Tidgy

When you look into it its not as clear cut as can or cant use it, despite what nizmond says, basicly they have to buy a load of currency to be able to use it, how they will fund it? who knows. thats what the bank of england will underwrite aka the currency, not scotland as a country. iF scotland default, thereon there own. That snot in any of the political rubbish nizmond is sprouting lol

Martin2005

Salmond has been merrily privatising parts of the NHS why not mention that too?

nizmo80

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yes we can and we will bro
as the pound belongs to us as well as you and have stated why we will
keep the pound and access to the bank of england

its so funny watching salmond putting westminster on there back leg on this matter LOL

Tidgy

all pish takign aside the biggest issue is no one actualy nows how it will work or if scotland will survive on its own. Bit like UK and europe, we only know the headlines not the gritty extreamly improtant details.

Carnut

I think we should let them keep the pound, they will have the responsibility of ruining the country but we would still have control over interest rates etc so could manage their economy.

nizmo80

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LOL trying to discredit what

a) you obviously dont understand and
b) dont like the answer to

How many times do I have to go over the same thing

the national debt is solely on the bank of england this is fact !

we will have access to the bank of england and the pound

as if we are restricted from the bank of england their debt is solely on them
and we cant default on a debt that is not ours LOL

we are willing to pay 8.3% of the national debt as long as we have access to the bank of england

are you honestly telling me if a yes vote goes through that westminster wont give us access and keep the 8.3% of national debt

here is what will happen after a yes vote

westminster cant scare us by saying we dont have access as the yes vote would on been cast

they will allow us access to the bank of england and we will keep the pound and also pay our share of the 8.3% of national debt

nizmo80

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No he has not

he has used private practices to help cut waiting lists
this is totally different from having a privatized NHS

what westminster is trying to do is sell off the NHS

you know this so stop trying to bullsh!t me

Martin2005

Sorry but that is bo0llox

nizmo80

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you wont be managing anything while you are flipping burgers working at Mc Donalds LOL

nizmo80

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OK rather than just say bo0llox

prove your point or are you too lazy too do that and just blurt bo0llox

Martin2005

But why are you so keen on keeping the pound? You haven't answered this

Tidgy

wow you relay have bitten into slamonds BS havn't you, go and read some none campaign provided mateial and come back again

Martin2005

The NHS in England is no more privatised than in any other part of the country. The type of privatisation Salmond is doing is no different to that undertaken in England.

There is no chance in a million that the NHS is going to be privatised, it would be political suicide.

nizmo80

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how stupid can you be I have said it more than once on this thread

because its our pound as well !

^ this clear enough for you this time or because of your 5 second goldfish memory span would like to post it again later on ??



maybe I should just blurt out bo0llox like you do as you might understand that better

nizmo80

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you are a proper drone arent you LOL

fecking robot you are

well why is people protesting in london about NHS privatisation then ??

put some evidence in what you are saying you moron

also where is the proof of salmond privatizing the NHS
it on the top of his agenda to keep the NHS it top priority to him and the yes campaign

go on prove other wise do some google researches if you are not too lazy and back up the pish you re talking about

Carnut

I'll take that as you know iam right otherwise you wouldn't have used the mc donalds comment. :D


Look the way I see it is the government have given Scotland the opportunity to vote for independence, if this was such a bad thing for the uk it would not be happening. It just comes down to what Scotland wants to do but as far as England goes there is ups and downs to both yes and no.

oh, I also think there is some power mad people fronting the yes campaign, not dissimilar to any walk of life.

Martin2005

But it demonstrably isn't your pound it's the UKs pound.

Using your logic the rest of the UK should be allowed to vote to stop Scottish independence, as 'Scotland belongs to the UK'

Tidgy

actualy no it wasn't, scotland adopted the pound sterling from england, scotland had the pound scots up untill teh 1700's whent he country went broke and its value dropped to 12 scots per sterling. so in fact your talking bollox here

Martin2005

Why are you so rude? I thought this was a grown up debate.

nizmo80

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I am not voting for salmond I am voting for scotland !

also I am just tired of having to swallow english and westminster bullsh!t and lies and not being able to do anything about it

but on the 18th september the scottish people will have the power to cast out westminster

Carnut

So you want to keep the pound because its " yours as well " not because its right for Scotland, I suspect that most of the yes campaign is based on emotions rather than answers.

nizmo80

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LOL being rude well
having to verbally fend off a bunch of guffys talking total crap
one of me versus how many of englishmen posting on scotish independence LOL


fair odds for any scotsman LOL


PS- dont take it to heart

Martin2005

I've only raised valid questions.

I wish you come up with a better argument on the pound though. The pound is not Scotland's it is the UKs

nizmo80

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well its better than english westminster basing themselves on greed isnt it.

and salmond has answered every question he has been asked if you cared to listen
but lets face it he is the enemy to you and westminster so you try to belittle and discredit as a result

nizmo80

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and the national debt is not scotlands its the bank of englands
and without the pound or access to the bank of england
its going to stay the bank of englands debt now isn't it

Carnut

But what makes you think that you wont have to swallow Scottish bullsh1t and why do you think that you will be able to do anything about it.

I am a English man but I have no say, you as a Scottish man will also have no say.

Carnut

Salmond is no more my enemy than Westminster is.

Martin2005

Isn't that the same argument as the UK saying it is going to keep all the oil as it 'belongs to the UK?

nizmo80

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I already covered the differences between westminster and hollyrood MP's in post #677

the scottish MP's try a hell of a lot harder to help the people rather than westminster

and 18 months we can vote for which party governs scotland so yes I will have a say along with every other scottish person which we dont have currently !

nizmo80

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wrong again mate

westminster will have access to 8.3% of the oil and everything else but we will have access to 8.3% of your resources as well

this has also been stated by the yes party too

we are not the ones trying to screw the other out of things but westminster is