Yeah, they would need to build a grid across the nation for that to work... if they did they could call it the national grid..... er, wait a minute indeed

 

I think breaking up the Union would make us weaker England Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland are one. We are all stronger as one.

 

Couldnt of put it better

 

England is stronger as one controling the other three
If all were independent and we all worked together we would be just as strong
Except we wouldnt have another country meddling in our own affairs

 

That's fine if you also believe Scotland should find a new currency.

 

That is, until the UK Government pull the millions in subsidies and grants that Scotland current receives for energy funding, or is it expected that rUK would continue to pay for it?

 

Oh yea and we are the subsidies junkies and scots cap in hand lol
If that was the case why does westminster try so hard to keep us
As we contribute much more than they are letting on

 

Contribute more in what?

 

Well the main thing would be taxes wouldnt it
With every pound that goes to westminster from scotland we get back 70p
And then we are called subsidies junkies because we get more money per head of population

Just face it FFS if the yes vote goes through westminster is going to be sh!tting itself
Because our resourses and tax money wont be theirs to control any more

 

We have a Scottish friend, yes i know how could we Any how he is a successful business man , guess what he has setup all his latest companies Registered in England, just in case the unwashed do swing the vote.

 

WTF do you mean by this?

 

I suspect he means all the jakeys that contribute **** all but expect to be looked after by those that do contribute to society in some shape or form.

 

Not sure what you are trying to say with that rational. Do you expect Scotland to get back a pound for every pound or more? Do you think the taxes you as an individual pay, will some how get it all back from the Scottish Government after independence or that the taxes you pay will all be spent on public services for your benefit?

I don't know where you got your figures from, but you might want to check it again. Last time I looked Scotland had a $12bn deficit in taxes raised in Scotland compared to what it receives from Westminster. The total tax revenues Scotland raised last year was £53bn, including the £6bn in tax revenue from oil (http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2014/03/7888). In the same period, the UK Government spent just over £65bn on Scotland's total public expenditure. As a result Scotland enjoyed £12,300 spent per person on public expenditure compared to £11,000 per person for the rest of the UK. That extra £12bn would be a welcome boost for the rest of the UK.

I think what you could potentially expect is for every iPound you earn (at least for the high earners), 70p would go to the Scottish Government to pay for the cost of setting an indendent Scotland, and to make up the potential shortfall in tax revenue as a number of leading financial institutions and business face the possibility of relocating to rUK and run the risk of no central bank to fall back on.

 

I'd like to think that if the Scots vote "Aye" none of my tax dollars will go north of the boarder after 18th september.
What about the military based in Scotland? How is that going to funded? Maybe the army could be pulled out and used to stop illegal immigrants crossing the border into the UK. Hadrians wall will have to be rebuilt too.

On a serious note, I have close family up there (an Englishman married to a Scottish lassie) None of the yes campaigners can answer any of their questions regarding taxes, nationality, future of the military, health service etc etc.
I hope the voters have done their homework.

 

it's simply be a publicity contest, salmond has no answers to the big questions that make any sence, i really do fear for the scottish people if they say yes

 

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=928363780511553

 

straight from the yes campaign

you keep going on about £12bn like a one trick pony

It was westminster who got the UK into

not £1 million in debt

not £1 billion in debt

But £1 ******* TRILLION in national debt

Whats your answer to this Jonc !!!!!

scotland cant afford it can we ???? Westminster pulled the uk into a debt crisis thats your government that we are trying to escape from !!

it was mentioned that scottish MP's will be just as bad as english MP's
well I totally disagree !!

westminsters finest

privatization of public services gas electricity public transport royal mail
and soon to be NHS !!
If westminster was not so greedy and self serving
we would not have OAP's freazing to death accross the UK because they are too scared to turn the god damn heating on !!! you can thank Thatcher for that

Also NHS is going full blown privatized with westminster so expect it to be like the USA where when you come in injured they check you wallet before they check your damn pulse !



they also introduced the bedroom tax which targeted the poorest of the UK
while the MP's were claiming expenses on second houses and getting the working people of the UK to pick up the TAB !!

also have Nuclear weapons of mass destruction situated of scottish soil
near Scotland biggest population FFS
I notice this is nicely kept clear of English citys !!

and this is the outcome if there was a accident with the trident !



Also your westminster targets the disabled of the uk with benefit cuts
How low can westminster sink !

charge for people to educate themselfs which should be free to further educated the people of the UK

OUR FINE MP's


Free further education to educate and progress the people of scotland

Free prescriptions for all the scottish people

freeze on the council tax

A NHS that is going to be written into our constitution so it can never be privatized if a yes vote goes through !

Investing in childcare for people to go out and work

Once a yes vote goes through kick the trident off OUR SOIL !!

Scottish MP's fighting for whats best for scotland

tried to fight the bedroom tax right from the start

giving the elderly the care that they need

OH I know your MP's are totally different from ours !!!





Before you ask another question Jonc whats your say on all the above ???

 

thats funny as the last political televised debate salmond answered everything and tore the No thanks campaign to shreds.

dont fear for us fear for yourselfs with westminster crushing the UK from within !!!

 

yea south of the border there is a high population of total bell ends that we cant wait to get separated from

 

That poster looks like the front page of a tabloid news paper. If that sums up the independence policy you're tucked. My tongue in cheek post about the army policing the borders might just come true.

 

Yea how could a scottish person call you a friend when you are a total slime ball ?

And as for the unwashed
with only a population of 5 million compared to your 55 million
There will be a much higher population of Junkies , Jakeys , unemployed and just total scum in England

 

just puts a comment about the poster as a answer but not anything else

If the rest of my post was not true you would of commented on that instead of pretty much not having a answer for anything else

 

Is it just me or does Nizmo80 come across as that mad raving Scottsman who has nothing better to do than constantly tell the world how great his funny little corner of the world is.

Oh and I love how you mention the effects of an accident involving trident then proceed to post a map that's only loosely related at best.

 

is it me or does neil h come accross as cant answer any of the points I have put accross

Nothing better to do Mmmm not really TBH as I am just enjoying my time off from my rotation as a field engineer in the middle easts oil fields and putting guffys like you in your place

Loosely related Ok prove your point,,,well go on then

also constantly tell the world how great his funny little corner of the world is,,,, well not exactly but definitely go on about how much better off we would be without westminster and mongs like yourself

 

Actually that little corner of the world is quite civilised and beautiful. Wet windy and cold but still civilised. As much as i take the rise, the sweaty socks are a great nation and a real asset. I can certainly relate to the nationalist approach. They are a proud people. you would need a degree in economics to understand the pros and cons of independence.

 

cheers but whats that about a sweaty sock

Joking aside thank you and yes I fully agree you would need a degree in politics to fully understand the pros and cons and the financials of independence

 

another one for you JONC !!

here is what the financial times had to say about scotlands future

http://betteroffday1.blogspot.co.uk/

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/5b5ec2ca-8...de.html#slide0

and here is a little quote for you from the financial times

 

So why vote for a change you don't fully understand?

 

I put every point on why I am voting yes in the post #677 on this thread

I dont fully understand the financials but I completely understand the policies of westminster and the yes campaign

and westminster being caught out with lies on things like the pound didnt do westminster any favors did it.

I believe in the yes campaign on what they say about the financials of scotland

also its pretty clear that westminster dragged the UK into 1 trillion pounds of debt so nobody can sit and try to point out finances in scotland while ignoring the 1 trillion state of debt affairs from westminster

 

Thanks for reminding me why I wouldn't give most people on here the time of day, I'd almost forgotten.

As for loosely related imagery, I'll explain. Seeing it's the only point in your rambling that's of interest. The map/details provided in that image relate to an airburst during a nuclear attack, now if an accident involving Trident resembles a nuclear attack then I'd hazard a guess Scotland has far bigger issues than independance.