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Old 22 December 2011, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
it's ... form

it's core
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Old 22 December 2011, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
I've not seen any Linux gui be as pretty out of the box as Windows or OSX. Perhaps with loads of mods it can be made that way but again that is not what people want, they want it like that without fussing.

As for Vista being the worst you are forgetting Windows ME
I've had all the iterations of Windows from Windows 3.1 all the way through to Windows 7 and Vista was the only one that had one of my eye ***** twitching like Police Commissioner Dreyfus!!
Old 22 December 2011, 03:46 PM
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I've had them all and supported them all but you couldn't have used ME if you think Vista is bad, ME is regarded as the worst incarnation of Windows that ever got released to the public.
Old 22 December 2011, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
On that point I do not agree.

IMHO Windows requires far more housekeeping than a Mac to keep on top of updates, clean registry, connecting to printers and other peripherals, disk space usage.

All things that a Mac user can avoid and simply focus on their use cases rather than PC maintenance.
I agree in part that windows does need a bit of housekeeping, Can't comemnt on Mac as I don't use it and we don't have any. I can also only comment on HP stuff but if you buy a windows PC and an HP printer the printer comes with the cables needed and a picture how to plug it in. It also comes with a setup CD that you put in and it even runs itself. Just click ok a few times and it installs all the stuff you need and then prints a test page. What could be simpler?

If you want to dick around with different drivers and not use the bloated install and app that comes with various printers then you start to get into trouble with the right driver and how to install it. But I bet it is the same on Mac if you do deviate from the norm. As I said before if you don't **** with it and just use it as natur intended then you will not have any problems with windows as a domestic user. Windows also informs you if and when there are updates available. If you have a reliable upto date virus scanner and don't be dick with **** sites and unknown url clicking you should not get into trouble.
Old 22 December 2011, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
I've had all the iterations of Windows from Windows 3.1 all the way through to Windows 7 and Vista was the only one that had one of my eye ***** twitching like Police Commissioner Dreyfus!!

YOu telling me that you have used XP x64 and not had an issue?

THE worst OS after windows ME.

Vista x64 SP2 is fine - so long as you have decent computer
Old 22 December 2011, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
YOu telling me that you have used XP x64 and not had an issue?

THE worst OS after windows ME.

Vista x64 SP2 is fine - so long as you have decent computer
Yes I had that at work, and I admit that XP 64 was pretty crap! Funnily I had ME on an old compaq M300 lappie and it was fine, go figure. Vista on the other hand on my decent spec (at that time) T60, it was fine for the first week of a fresh install, but after that ran like paraplegic slug.
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Omg
Just come back in from washing the Scoobies and I have started a technical war on here
The wife has been on the iPad on her fb and a bloke walking past said how clean the greenwagon is as usual

We got talking and guess what
He is getting his 2 kids iPads each for Xmas

Ones 8 and the other one is 14 so he will be wanting it for the **** and he won't get a virus from it !
The Dad told me the laptop is on its last legs as battery is done and the PC is running slow because of all the crap the kids have put on it no doubt

Simple and efficient
That is what it is all about
Apple
And all the kids will want the iPad for Xmas

I will let you techies back on now to sort out the real issues ,of why the non believers hate Apple and Jack will be back on soon to put you all right
Old 22 December 2011, 04:11 PM
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In such poor economic times it beggars belief so many people can afford a £400+ item for each of their kids at Christmas. But it doesn't even come down to being able to afford it, £400 on one present seems an outrageous amount on principle for a child's Christmas present.
Old 22 December 2011, 04:12 PM
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I got a white one for the wife only a 16gb but still I can't wait to play with it.
Old 22 December 2011, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
I agree in part that windows does need a bit of housekeeping, Can't comemnt on Mac as I don't use it and we don't have any. I can also only comment on HP stuff but if you buy a windows PC and an HP printer the printer comes with the cables needed and a picture how to plug it in. It also comes with a setup CD that you put in and it even runs itself. Just click ok a few times and it installs all the stuff you need and then prints a test page. What could be simpler?

If you want to dick around with different drivers and not use the bloated install and app that comes with various printers then you start to get into trouble with the right driver and how to install it. But I bet it is the same on Mac if you do deviate from the norm. As I said before if you don't **** with it and just use it as natur intended then you will not have any problems with windows as a domestic user. Windows also informs you if and when there are updates available. If you have a reliable upto date virus scanner and don't be dick with **** sites and unknown url clicking you should not get into trouble.
Two things - my home PC is an HP


On a Mac you attach a printer - it works!!!


(Mind you when they updated to Lion HP printers seemed to stop working for a month!!!)
Old 22 December 2011, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
From a techie perspective I disagree on this. Microsoft roll out patches once a month (Patch Tuesday)to keep their OS's upto date. OSX on the other hand only patch infrequently yet when ever I have seen an update come down to my OSX vms they have always included security roll outs. Microsoft just roll out more regularly.

Connecting a printer to either OS is the same on principle, both need the appropriate drivers/software installed to perform the functions the device is capable of.

Again disk space, nothing to do with OS, all dependent on size of hard disk provided on the machine and the amount of data the user stores.

Clean registry? Never had to do it but the I run antivirus and firewall and don't let malware get on my machines. Simple thing to do yet so many people don't bother.
Patch Tuesday is usually followed by IT Supports Nightmare Wednesday!

Attaching a printer - Mac - it attaches in most cases; Windows I have to install drivers in most cases.

Of course once you start doing a few intalls and there is no central software update governance things get out of sync - then there are some updates from MS and things get out of sync. Then you need to clean up the registry to get things moving again.

And then you need to defrag your disk to get things moving again.


All things I have never done on a Mac.


Oh, and I do have anti-Malware/firewall/anti-virus filling up my Windows machine - all up to date.

Something else that doesn't worry me on the Mac.

Old 22 December 2011, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
Patch Tuesday is usually followed by IT Supports Nightmare Wednesday!

Attaching a printer - Mac - it attaches in most cases; Windows I have to install drivers in most cases.

Of course once you start doing a few intalls and there is no central software update governance things get out of sync - then there are some updates from MS and things get out of sync. Then you need to clean up the registry to get things moving again.

And then you need to defrag your disk to get things moving again.


All things I have never done on a Mac.


Oh, and I do have anti-Malware/firewall/anti-virus filling up my Windows machine - all up to date.

Something else that doesn't worry me on the Mac.

I can honestly say I have never experienced any of those issues on a Windows machine. Never had to do anything with the registry and never had to defrag. Driver installs are simple as long as the right thing is installed!

Oh and as for no malware on OSX i'd not rely on that and run Sophos antivirus on my OSX vms. If there was no need for it i'm sure Sophos wouldn't waste their time especially as it is provided by them free.
Old 22 December 2011, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
Oh, and I do have anti-Malware/firewall/anti-virus filling up my Windows machine - all up to date.

Something else that doesn't worry me on the Mac.

Better start worrying then...
http://techland.time.com/2011/03/02/...ing-for-apple/
http://www.gizmag.com/how-to-avoid-m...re-os-x/18785/
http://techczar.wordpress.com/2009/0...s-and-malware/
Old 22 December 2011, 04:59 PM
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Anyone on here going for a walk in the park Christmas Day or is it a day in rubbing screens?
Old 22 December 2011, 06:07 PM
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Windows will never have the luxury of only having to support Microsoft hardware, there'll always be some monkey sat between the hardware and the operating system adding it's own shoddy drivers and profit making additions. The flaws are fundamental and the patching is out of control.
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
If there was no need for it i'm sure Sophos wouldn't waste their time especially as it is provided by them free.
Sophos are playing a well timed game. They know a lot about Phishing.
Old 22 December 2011, 06:45 PM
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The most popular thread on Scoobynet gets moved when a moderator see's popular opinion swaying from his favour. Madness, next thing he'll delete it to cover his mistake.
Old 22 December 2011, 06:48 PM
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Nah just a tidy up of NSR.

Three computer threads was getting too much. Figured whilst I'm sorting one thread I may well shift the whole lot.

PS I'm getting an iPhone early next year

(whether I keep it on not wil be down to if I can cope with the battery life)

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On day you'll realise that Apple products are Non Scooby Related and the Computer Related forum is not the place for a thread that affects the majority of Scoobynet users. High traffic threads are gold dust around here.
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Nah just a tidy up of NSR.

Three computer threads was getting too much. Figured whilst I'm sorting one thread I may well shift the whole lot.

PS I'm getting an iPhone early next year

(whether I keep it on not wil be down to if I can cope with the battery life)
You will be fine just buy a spare adapter and charge it up at work
It's cheaper then at home and gives you something to play with when your stuck in traffic jams

Make sure you put the apple stickers on your car windows

It's all about image really not this technical stuff really
Old 22 December 2011, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Apple will always have the luxury of only having to support Apple hardware, there'll always be some monkey sat in front of their hardware and the operating system paying well over the odds and making massive profits from them. Their users are mental and out of control.
EFA!
Old 22 December 2011, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
EFA!
You got the first sentence right, that's a record for you, have a gold star.
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well just placed my order for the 4s, thanks apple
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It's a very nice piece of kit. Siri is still fun.
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Best of all the wife is now having my iPhone 4 instead of that piece of **** DHD

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Originally Posted by JackClark
You got the first sentence right, that's a record for you, have a gold star.
Thanks, gotta start somewhere, better than sounding like a record, right?
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Originally Posted by lordharding
You will be fine just buy a spare adapter and charge it up at work
It's cheaper then at home and gives you something to play with when your stuck in traffic jams

Make sure you put the apple stickers on your car windows

It's all about image really not this technical stuff really
Always wondered what the stickers were for, thanks for that
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Originally Posted by lordharding
You will be fine just buy a spare adapter and charge it up at work
It's cheaper then at home and gives you something to play with when your stuck in traffic jams

Make sure you put the apple stickers on your car windows

It's all about image really not this technical stuff really
We'll see. This will be the second attempt at appledom.

Image don't count for much when I'm in a tent on the cambrian moutains with one bar of battery and no power source.

I'll give the stickers a miss; I don't fancy having my windows put in because some ******* think there is a macbook or ipad hiding under the seat.
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Originally Posted by Trout
Patch Tuesday is usually followed by IT Supports Nightmare Wednesday!

Attaching a printer - Mac - it attaches in most cases; Windows I have to install drivers in most cases.

Of course once you start doing a few intalls and there is no central software update governance things get out of sync - then there are some updates from MS and things get out of sync. Then you need to clean up the registry to get things moving again.

And then you need to defrag your disk to get things moving again.


All things I have never done on a Mac.


Oh, and I do have anti-Malware/firewall/anti-virus filling up my Windows machine - all up to date.

Something else that doesn't worry me on the Mac.

As regards Windows you clearly really have no idea what you are doing, none whatsoever ... since XP running Windows has been child's play... maybe best to just stay away from things that are beyond your capabilities as simple as those things maybe to most people.
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
YOu telling me that you have used XP x64 and not had an issue?
That was the first OS I actually bought and paid for after using freebies for years, Microsoft got their own back on me with that one lol


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