Ok fair enough, Never noticed it had been mentioned earlier on

I think the comment's of this thread are pretty spot on TBH, our softy softy approach to crime clearly isn't working, We tried it and failed it, A more hard punishment fits the crime type of justice is needed now IMO

 

There are 'regimes' all over the world Martin , the British high commission cant step in a save every fcukwit criminal whitey from themselves

 

Ridding the country of drug dealers hardned criminals isnt a good thig then?

 

But why the lust for bloody, I can't square the 'sanctity of life' argument with wanting kill people.

I'm all for tougher punishments, but killing people is just wrong. How does this make us any better than the criminals we want killed?

 

So you think that Britons and others for that matter thinking of smuggling drugs through China might not be a little worried now about what will happen to them if they get caught?



The reason that drug smuggling is so rife and blatant in this country is because the penalties for doing this and getting caught make it seem worth the risk.

 

Does it though?

It may also help rid the country of any kind of counter political view

 

So drugs dont kill?

 

[QUOTE]You have some information?? Go on then post it up

 

The guy was caught with 4kg of drugs trying to enter China which has the death penalty for drug trafficking. What other conclusions are the Chinese prosecution supposed to draw?

Did you pack this case yourself? Yes
Has you been asked to carry anything for anyone else? No
Has anyone tampered with your luggage? No

so the drugs are yours end of story job done off with his head!

Maybe if the UK punished drug traffickers in the same way there would be less drugs in the country.

You can't blame the Chinese for their stance on drug smugglers.

 

and what of the lifes saved by keeping this blokes drugs off of the streets? how much lifes would this guys drugs have taken?

It's a pretty much loose loose situation for everybody, but I think taking this guy out has saved quite a lot of lifes in itself

 

What point are you trying to make?

 

[quote=Martin2005;9122983]Its called common sense

 

If they were to come across a gang smuggling tons of the stuff - they would still be for the chop

-What point are you making ?

 

He smuggled drugs that could have killed scores of people and ruined many more lives................there lies the answer

 

[quote=sarasquares;9122995]

There will always be people desperate enough (or mad enough) to do such things. There is no empirical evidence to suggest that DP is a deterrent.

 

Maybe not but you wouldn't be killed no matter the outcome.

I'm not against putting some people to death, I'm against the way China dealt with this case.

 

A simple point

It's wrong to kill, therefore the death penalty must be wrong

 

Not really. It was a sideways allusion to the idea that views like the OP's almost invariably come from Sun or Mirror readers.

The thought of chinese "justice" being applied over here is a pretty frightening one, as I'm sure you would agree?

I was suggesting that the original poster's comments were somewhat undermined by his post being riddled with spelling and grammatical errors.

 

The point is they didn't know for sure if he was ill .. they killed him without second thought and that's scary.

You go over there and on the way someone drops a bag in your pocket.. you could be executed for it..

 

[quote=Martin2005;9123014]I bet if you asked 100 drug smugglers if they would take the risk of smuggling into China where the penalty is death if you are caught or to a country where the penalty is a prison term, what do you think the vast majority of those drug smugglers would say?

 

[QUOTE=Martin2005;9123014]on the plus side consider the thousands saved in treating a 'mentally ill' drug smuggler

 

You really need to lighten up with that **** dude

 

This guy had never had an examination for bi-polar outside of China, He has spent the last 6 years living in Poland, Hardly any contact with his family, the only mention of diagnosis for bi polar was a examination of 2 emails, hardly scientific !
I belive that every country has its own rules because the majority of the population feel that their rules reflect how they want to live in there own country.
Why do we in this country feel we have the right to condem everbody who lives by a different set of rules, and even worse, always consider our rules are better .
When in Rome, do as a Roman !

 

[QUOTE=sarasquares;9123028]If you asked 100 British DD then maybe, but the Chinese drug problems are still booming .. regardless of some Brit getting caught.

 

You keep going, Splitpin

 

The irony of this case is that all along this argument about the Chinese Government protecting the Chinese people from drug smugglers; when it should be about how the Chinese people need protecting from the Chinese Government, they directly or indirectly have killed more of their own citizens than drugs ever will. And yet they are held up on here as a fine example....words fail me

 

Do you go through life with a pair of blinkers on?, you really need to look at the whole picture and not just whats infront of you

Maybe it is maybe it isnt wrong to kill depending on the situation, but this guys drugs could have killed hundreds/thousands?, so where does "its wrong to kill" fit in there then?

 

There was no medical evidence to say he had the condition he was said to have. I am pretty sure if he had been diagnosed and was receiving medication then this would have been found but his family could not support this.

Fair enough, if he was examined by a mental health team he may well have been diagnosed with Bi Polar. His family said he suffered from it. If the family were that concerned that he was mentally ill then they should have made sure he wouldn't be able to end up in China in the first place.

 

Nah, works well for me. Although looking at your sig I can see why you might disagree.

 

Good I'm happy for you, now **** off