How has killing him changed anything?

PS stop insulting me, I believe very strongly that the DP is very wrong, and no amount of jibes are going to change that position.

Facts and evidence to the contray will of course change my mind. But there's precious little of that on this thread

 

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I agree, the Chinese drug problem is massive but you have to start somewhere. Maybe more countries will begin to adopt the same thinking as China......., surely that would have an impact, albeit small.

 

Any advance on that? Are you suggesting that we should have summary justice, Chinese style, over here, or...?

 

We have no idea how mentally disturbed he was and whether he knew that there was a death penalty for possession of such a large amount of the drug and whether he was planning to sell it off for an enormous profit. Its a hell of a lot for one's own use!

I have no time for drug pushers/dealers whatever you want to call them, they are wicked people and have no thought for what they are leading their victims into for their own profit. With regard to what they do to their victims, there are those who feel that the death penalty is a just punishment and deterrent to the dealers.

Martin, if you want to tell us all about life in China, that you should think hard and long about what our leaders are about to do to us and our country when they hand us over lock stock and barrel to the Eu commissioners. Do you realise that we will no longer have our own effective government after the next election. We will be run by a totalitarian organisation who will police as as they wish.

Les

 

Because killing him has saved hundreds if not thousands of life's, do you not think one life being lost is better than hundreds if not thousands of lifes being lost?

So basically sacrafice one, but save hundreds/thousands

 

At least they paid homage to our once proud nation by using a needle rather than a pistol

 

You cannot possibly believe this

That statement can only be true if you make the very naive and crazy assumption that the end users for his drugs, kicked the habit as a result of this guy being caught.

BTW are you now saying human 'sacrifice' is justified?

 

How many British citizens have been shot by the British government then?

I'm fairly sure Mao Tse Tung has us covered

 

They didn't sacrifice him, they enforced the law.

 

I'm on about his drugs killing the users

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Wor..._Supreme_Court

Thats a hell of a lot of deaths, and yet you say its wrong to kill what of the 26,000 deaths that could have come from this?

 

I didn't say they did sacrifice him did I?

 

Some great comments on this thread with the Scoobynet common sense coming to the fore...

Death sentence fully justified

Is it? Research is pretty unanimous that the death sentence is no more an effective deterrent than a custodial sentence. Personally I think the death sentence is abhorrent.


Drugs kill

This heroin could have killed up to 28000 - what complete and utter bollocks. Scientific evidence clearly demonstrates the MOST DANGEROUS drug in the Western world is alcohol. It is by far the most fatal and injurous to health. It is a drug that has powerful primary and secondary impact on health. Heroin is primarily fatal or injurous due to secondary impacts such as corrupted drugs; uncontrolled dosage; lifestyle impacts due to unsupported addiction.

So are barmen, offlicenses and supermarkets wicked Les?

China is becoming a world power

Where has everyone been? China could bankrupt the West overnight. The only reason why they don't is that we are their most greedy customers soaking up the low cost clothes, commodities, electronics and toys! Who do you think is supporting the MASSIVE US financial deficit and probably a good chunk of Europe's as well?

Personally I think the poor guy was a stooge and those that were really guilty are rarely touched by the law as they can afford better 'government' relations!

 

It looks to me like you did

 

Are you seriously trying to suggest that the execution of this man saved 26,000 lives?

If you are I suspect you might be one of the 26,000

 

I suggest you go back and read again, try looking at the context, you'll find it useful

 

good

 

What I'm saying is stopping his drugs from hitting the streets saved many lifes, There was potential for 26,000 deaths

 

This sounds out a clear message to people that China doesn't want people smuggling drugs. It'll make people who think they can make an easy living from drugs avoid China, which is surely the result they're after?

That's the reason people have no respect for the UK anymore... 'you can come over here and we'll take care of you when you commit crimes'. It's a farce.

The problem now is that everyone has to have rights: rapists, murderers, they all have people like Gordon Brown on their side protecting them, while he wafflles on at the same time about 'cracking down' and 'getting tough' on crime. Laughable.

 

We shot dissident irish less than a hundred years ago , Mao was 35 years ago

theyve got plenty of time to catch up


and in the meatime they hardly need us telling them anything

 

Thats just garbage and you know it

 

So you are denying the guy was a drug smuggler?
Is that what you mean by miscarriage of Justice?
I'm not sure why you are hung up on this "cultural" aspect - you are racist in your views of China. That much is pretty obvious.
Get off your high horse - you are no better than anyone else on here.

 

Still reads the same no matter how many times i read it

If i have missed something could you point it out for me please?

 

Sara Sara Sara, Martin is just quoting the word first used by Dunk. C'mon....

 

Why is it garbage Martin, do you deny that drugs kill people? Do you deny the ammount of drugs he had could have killed many people?

 

Going by what some on here post I'd probably get community service then . And what the hell has that got to do with drug dealing anyway Mr Shakespeare.

Chip

 

Thats an outrageous claim to make - because I believe the Chinese government to be wrong does not make me a racist. That's a ****ing disgraceful thing to say, and you should apologise.

I never claimed to be better than anyone else, I claim to be against the death penalty

 

Dunk, his exceution resulted in the death of nobody else, that's Martin's point. Eradicate drugs worldwide and you might be onto something...

 

I found the missing bit, thanks

 

NO and NO

But you are implying that those end users would stop taking drugs as a result of this guy being caught.

There is apparently no supply problem in China.

Let's put it this way, there have been massive drug hauls in the UK and on ships bound for the UK, there is no evidence that suggests this has saved anyones life, or that drug useage has declined as a result.

 

So even the most heinous crime could be committed and you would feel the same?